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Hoyt Faktor Turbo vs Faktor 34 - Brace Height

6.8K views 12 replies 6 participants last post by  MIKEY CUSTOM-G  
#1 ·
Hey all, have more of a general compound question, but since I'll be getting a Hoyt Faktor figured I'd let you all answer it.

I've been casually into archery for about 6 years, and currently have a Bear Lights Out. It's a fine bow, kills anything I point at it, shoots well, just want something new and better. Anyway, in regards to the Faktor, how critical is the difference in brace height between the Turbo and the 34. Someone told me the shorter brace height on the Turbo is really going to make a big difference in the "forgiveness" of ease on the shot.
 
#2 ·
This issue of brace height and forgiveness and accuracy has been discussed by many. Your answers will vary wildly depending on who you talk to. Some people claim 6" brace height bows affect their accuracy none and others say they will not own a bow with less than a 7" brace height. Some people who hunt in very cold conditions say that shorter brace height bows increase the odds of the string hitting multiple layers of clothing. Another thing to consider is draw length. People claim that shorter brace height bows affect accuracy and forgiveness more on longer draw lengths? Seems like every archer has an opinion on this. I have never owned a shorter brace height bow, but I have shot them and I do not see an issue unless you wear a lot of clothes in cold conditions. Again you will get varying opinions on this matter. My advice is to shoot any bow that you plan on buying and decide for yourself.
 
#3 ·
Wow that was truly vague. lol. The four Faktor bows all have very similar specs, mainly the difference being for shooter fit, except for the turbo having a 6"brace height, the 30 and 34 at 6 3/4", and the 34 long draw with 7 1/2". The guy I was talking to was sure the 3/4" making a huge difference at longer ranges that I like to shoot. I do hunt some, but is that 3/4" really going to make that big of a difference in accuracy and clothing clearance? Maybe my wife could tell a 3/4" difference, but to me it doesn't seem like allot. I'm probably just going to go with the Faktor 34, I'm not really into setting speed records, I mainly just want a better bow.

I wish I could shoot the turbo, 30, and 34, but at least in this neck of the woods, within 100 miles, there is not a single shop that has them in left hand. I can shoot right handed, just to show off to my kids, but I wouldn't test one right handed to form an opinion on a new one for me.
 
#4 ·
Sorry my answer was vague, but if you do significant research on this subject you will find additional information also vague. There are those who say exactly what the guy that you talked to said and others will dispute that fact. If these bows (shorter brace height speed bows) were significantly less accurate for everyone they would sell very virtually none of these bows. There are many people who shoot these bows at long range with accuracy. I cannot answer your question with a definitive answer, only you can do that by testing some bows with different brace heights at long range.

By the way Cameron Hanes shoots long distance and I know his last two bows were the Spyder Turbo and he now has a Carbon Spyder Turbo. This is a person who is an excellent long range shot who shoots a short brace height speed bow.
 
#5 ·
As I get more involved with the archery community I'm finding out there are allot more opinions out there than facts. This and that, etc. Yeah, would be nice to test brace height for myself, If only I could find a place that has them. Thank you.
 
#6 ·
First see if any friends or others have a 6" bow of any kind that you can try. Take my word for it I have read many threads and articles on this subject and the opinions vary wildly. You need to see what works for you. I have no plans to buy a new bow any time soon, but if were getting a new bow the Faktor Turbo would be high on my list. I would rather have the Carbon Spyder Turbo, but they would be way out of my price range.
 
#7 ·
I had an opportunity to shoot the Faktor turbo and Faktor 34 in LH this week at the ATA. I have shoot for more than 30 years and I am a died-in-the-wool bigger brace height fan. Having said that although I was only able to shoot into a bale the Turbo did not come close to hitting my arm and was very smooth. Having shot both now I will probably buy the Turbo. All other things equal it is nice to have the extra speed.
 
#8 ·
Well, this was a much tougher choice then I had first planned. I put in my order for a Faktor 34 today, 29.5" draw, 55-65lb, blackout. My orginal plan was the turbo, 70-80lb.

The guy at the pro shop let me shoot his Faktor Turbro, RIGHT HANDED. Had his set at 65lbs, I had to have him draw my arm back all the way, with me fighting to keep my left eye closed, I put my arrow on the line of the 10 ring at 40. I kinda thru him off a bit with that shot. Bow was smooth, no vibration, and a hell of allot faster than my Bear Lights Out. Even as I type this I'm still wondering If I should just get the Turbo...
 
#11 ·
Get the turbo with 60lbs limbs, shoot 340 spine arrows with 100 grain heads. You will be about 285 plus fps and 73 plus ke. The draw will be cake, your hold on target will make you laugh with joy and if you're an even half decent shot the bh issue will become a thing of the past. I worried about the "short" bh of my vector turbo prior to purchase and did all kinds of research online and spoke to all sorts of people. It yielded nothing but opinion and innuendo. I bought the bow and have been living happily ever after.

Moreover, tremendous difference between 65 factor 34 and 80 spider turbo...Why the discrepancy? They aren't even close to being a similar bow...
 
#12 ·
Moreover, tremendous difference between 65 factor 34 and 80 spider turbo...Why the discrepancy? They aren't even close to being a similar bow...
Not sure what you mean here, unless you misread. I ordered the Faktor 34 in left hand (spelled with a K not C), and the dealers Faktor was a right handed turbo. Even though I shot it on my weak side, I still got a sense of what it was going to do. Maybe I should have gotten the turbo, maybe not, but I doubt I'll be unhappy with the 34.

Though originally i was going to order it with 70-80lb limbs, when crunch time came I decided on the 55-65lb limbs. Currently shooting 60lbs, that i can pull back all day long. 70-80 would have wore my ass out, especially trying to shoot all day with my four boys.

My only concern now is if I should drop down to a 400 spine arrow. Currently using 340 with 60lbs. I know there is nothing wrong with stiffer/heavier arrows, just wondering if there will be a huge performance gain by dropping some weight.
 
#13 ·
I disagree with the ascertation that the Turbo will be way harder to shoot.

Bows this day and age are too far advanced for that, and Hoyt is more advanced then them all.

Get the Turbo. It's basically the same bow as the 2013 Spyder Turbo and my brother owns one. I shot it before I ordered my Element and I gotta say I think I shot it better than I do my Element.

The Factor has a little tweaks to it but it's by and large a Spyder, which is one heckuva awesome bow for the money.