[Dado]

This kind of opinon has been stated to me and my shooting buddy (still the only archers the state) by quite a few people interested in archery. I wonder how could anyone expect to be able to hit anything, not to mention a non-static target at unknown distance, and hope to kill or wound it hard enough if they hadn't practiced for some time and didn't have satisfying results in order to be sure they just won't cause more trouble than anything else with this reckless and selfish behaviour?

These people found practicing boring (especially shooting paper at known distances), while on the other hand are more than willing to risk to be arrested on count of poaching? (hunting with cold weapons is prohibited here)

 

[Dado]

Oh and did I mention they frowned upon any arrow tips that didn't look like broadheads?

 

[thh058]

i'm right there with you dado. those people drive me nuts. but sadly enough, most bowhunters are not archers. they shoot "good enough to kill a deer." to me, that is unaccepatable. you should strive to be the best you can to effectively kill you quarry...

 

[straitshot]

i got to ask, what a cold weapon?

im not interrested in target shooting because i cant afford to be interested in it. i figure

$630 for ross cr334
$300 for decent sight
$90 for a rest
$100 for stabilizer
$120 for winners choice strings after every year
=$1120+$120 a year. that doesnt include arrows or range fees of gas, which is ever climbing.

 

[straitshot]

i'm right there with you dado. those people drive me nuts. but sadly enough, most bowhunters are not archers. they shoot "good enough to kill a deer." to me, that is unaccepatable. you should strive to be the best you can to effectively kill you quarry...

i do that also. i want to be the best i can, and i practice, but im not going to hunt a a 6 power lense to be more accurate.

 

[thh058]

i do that also. i want to be the best i can, and i practice, but im not going to hunt a a 6 power lense to be more accurate.

and nobody expects you to. i target shoot with my hunting set up, same as TONS of people do. you don't need to have a fancy bow to punch paper and practice...

 

[Q!!]

This kind of opinon has been stated to me and my shooting buddy (still the only archers the state) by quite a few people interested in archery. I wonder how could anyone expect to be able to hit anything, not to mention a non-static target at unknown distance, and hope to kill or wound it hard enough if they hadn't practiced for some time and didn't have satisfying results in order to be sure they just won't cause more trouble than anything else with this reckless and selfish behaviour?

These people found practicing boring (especially shooting paper at known distances), while on the other hand are more than willing to risk to be arrested on count of poaching? (hunting with cold weapons is prohibited here)

By stating that they don't want to be involved in target shooting, do you think they coulkd possibly mean competetive? I'm not really big on competetive target shooting (i've shot a few 3d tournements), but that doesn't mean I don't practice so I can make a good shot on game. Me and my brother shoot at least 3 or 4 times a week for a couple hours at a time, sometimes more. Also, what does as you state above "wound it hard enough" mean? Isn't our goal as bowhunters to kill the animal? Why would you be interested in wounding it hard? Just curious.

 

[Dado]

By stating that they don't want to be involved in target shooting, do you think they coulkd possibly mean competetive?

Nope, they just lack any interest of practicing.
What's worse there was this guy who contacted us who was solely interested in BOW FISHING. I think he said he was gonna order one, and my friend told him it would be nice if he had a bow to come and hang around with us, but the other guy said he wasn't interested in anything else but bow fishing. HOW CAN YOU BOW FISH w/o any practice???

 

[Myk]

My friend's idea of practice is to tune his bow as best as he can, or good enough to hit a kill zone at 30yds, whichever comes first.
When I got my overdraw he wanted one. I told him that you have to practice to use an overdraw or it will kill your accuracy. He didn't listen, he hates it, but he keeps it because he likes the safety of the shelf protecting his arm from the razorblades.
He's a machinist with his own machine shop. He could make a lock mount shelf extension.

My other friend is willing to practice but he wants to shoot fingers. Note that I didn't say he could shoot fingers.
I know he can do great with a release, I taught him how to shoot a compound so I've seen it.
But he wants to use fingers even though he can't hit a target at 20yds and gets terrible arrow flight getting to where his arrow may land.
I tell him that if he wants to shoot fingers he needs to get a bow that is built with fingers in mind, but that means buying a new bow and you can't have that. Can spend $20,000 on a motorcycle but not $400 on a bow.

 

[Myk]

HOW CAN YOU BOW FISH w/o any practice???

Fishing is different.
You can't practice what the light does to the target as it goes through water by shooting at paper hanging on a target butt.

 

[metalarcher]

I hear you... Practice makes perfect!

 

[Dado]

Fishing is different.
You can't practice what the light does to the target as it goes through water by shooting at paper hanging on a target butt.

Yeah but you can practice your form, feel, etc...

 

[beenfarr]

My Dad has a buddy that won't pactice, he says he doesn't want to take the chance of messing up his bow. That seems like backwards logic to me.

Ben

 

[Myk]

Yeah but you can practice your form, feel, etc...

LOL, I was just picturing the new bowfishing that has caught on around here.
Form is sitting in a chair on the back of the boat, the targets are silver carp as they jump through the air.
It's pretty much just like instinctive shooting at moving targets with a recurve and I haven't found any stationary target practice that helps

 

[Whaack]

Yep, drives me nuts too. I used to know a few guys that I kind of hung around with back in high school that would drive me up the wall. Every year I would spend all summer getting myself and my equipment all ready. Those goofballs would throw on some nasty old broadheads and some hodgepodge of arrows and head to the woods.

I tried to explain it to them that they owed it to the deer to better prepare. Of course when people start refering to the animal that I hold in such high regards as, "just an old dumb animal that is easy to kill", that is when I no longer hunt with said people.

Anything worth doing is worth doing 100%.

 

[shootstraight]

been there too

I have a relative who never practices and regularly has shot deer in horrible ways, (once in the butt, once he shot a doe 4 times before he had to pounce on it and cut it's throat, once in the face and last year in the foot at 20 yds). He will practice with a gun and is a great shot so I did the only humane thing I could think of, I bought him a crossbow for Christmas.

 

[resistol5000]

Hey guys, what about THE FUN of just shooting your bow? I mean, the sound, the feeling of it, not to mention all the benefits you get for it (muscular fitness, good technique!!!). Sometimes, when I show my bow to somebody I can tell if they pick it up with respect and curiosity, or if they would be some of those careless people who are capable of shootin' it in some public park, runnin' behind a squirrel. There are some things you learn in the field, some are taught to you by more experienced people, some you learn by yourself.

 

[Tim4Trout]

IMO -- Efforts made towards posessing the ability to hit 3 or 4 arrow billard to golf ball sized groups or smaller ( achieved through practice ) at 30 yards much more often than not may not make me a tournament champion, but when I enter the woods in quest of deer confidence in my shooting ability to make a desired shot should take precidence over incuring a "I hope I hit it" / "Hail Mary" attitude.

 

[Jack NZ]

My best friend an hunting partner has never stepped foot on a field course or any other type of target course in his life.
He shoots to 40 yards in his back yard for practice an he's one of the best hunters I've ever met.So he's not interested in target shooting BIG DEAL,he's a bloody good hunter an bushman.
Some of you primadonnas should get over your selfs.
Judge an flamin jury too huh,If it wasn't so funny it'd be pathetic.

 

[AlChick]

Sorry

I hear you... Practice makes perfect!

Only perfect practice makes perfect.

That's one of the reasons that I started shooting spots. At known distances and specific aiming points you know whether your archery is good or not. At longer distances, form breaks become more profound and one is compelled to learn more and work harder to improve. Field archery requires one to practice shots from twenty feet to eighty yards. One needs to know the effects of uphill, downhill, and side-hill on one's shot. Equipment must be impeckably tuned and maintained to remain competitive. Hunting distances are considered "must have" points for field archers.

The result is greater confidence and competance when I hunt. I'm still choosy about my shots, but whether the shot is right at the base of my stand, thirty-five yards out, or somewhere in between I have great confidence that I will make the exact shot that I want.