I'm wondering if there is some wonder glue that holds inserts well enough that in shooting at targets it will not lose it's grip on the arrow and leave it in the target. I also want this wonder glue to be reversible...i.e. if an insert gets bent or you just want to make an adjustment, you can do so without damaging your arrow.
I've used easton 2 part epoxy and insert iron. They hold amazing, but if you want to later remove an insert....you are in for a very delicate balance of heating and pulling that will likely burn the carbon to break the bond. Plus insert iron expands while it cures, which is a PITA.
I have used ferr-l-tite (the higher temperature amber colored hot melt) and it worked good for me with my Victory stainless t-shok inserts in my VAP arrows. Every once in a blue moon I might have an insert stay in the hard foam (not the replaceable core) of a 3d target. Going with that system has allowed me to re-use arrows with very little effort in the scenario where an insert bent or I wanted to experiment with a different insert weight. I could simply heat up the insert and remove it.
I am trying to transition to RIP arrows (.204 ID) and using either ethics insert of the stainless shok ss insert that comes with the RIPs. These inserts have little or no collar on the outside of the arrow shaft, and with the hot melt, I'm having a hard time keeping the inserts on. In very limited shooting, I had two ethics inserts stay in the target, and just now I had one of the shok ss inserts fly off the end of the arrow after stopped in the target core. Literally the momentum of the insert and field point pulled it off the arrow as it stopped. The insert and field point impacted the tree 5 yards behind the target. I'm going to try using a bore cleaning brush to score the inside of my arrow more, but I fear that the hot glue just isn't strong enough with the lower amount of surface area of these inserts.
Any other glue that has stronger bonding strength than hot melt, but that I can still heat it up and get it to break the bond (not so much heat that I'm burning up the carbon)?
I've used easton 2 part epoxy and insert iron. They hold amazing, but if you want to later remove an insert....you are in for a very delicate balance of heating and pulling that will likely burn the carbon to break the bond. Plus insert iron expands while it cures, which is a PITA.
I have used ferr-l-tite (the higher temperature amber colored hot melt) and it worked good for me with my Victory stainless t-shok inserts in my VAP arrows. Every once in a blue moon I might have an insert stay in the hard foam (not the replaceable core) of a 3d target. Going with that system has allowed me to re-use arrows with very little effort in the scenario where an insert bent or I wanted to experiment with a different insert weight. I could simply heat up the insert and remove it.
I am trying to transition to RIP arrows (.204 ID) and using either ethics insert of the stainless shok ss insert that comes with the RIPs. These inserts have little or no collar on the outside of the arrow shaft, and with the hot melt, I'm having a hard time keeping the inserts on. In very limited shooting, I had two ethics inserts stay in the target, and just now I had one of the shok ss inserts fly off the end of the arrow after stopped in the target core. Literally the momentum of the insert and field point pulled it off the arrow as it stopped. The insert and field point impacted the tree 5 yards behind the target. I'm going to try using a bore cleaning brush to score the inside of my arrow more, but I fear that the hot glue just isn't strong enough with the lower amount of surface area of these inserts.
Any other glue that has stronger bonding strength than hot melt, but that I can still heat it up and get it to break the bond (not so much heat that I'm burning up the carbon)?
