If the broadhead is one solid piece its stronger.

Ferrule inserts suck.

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Inserts limit choice in my opinion because you will be stuck with that weight even if you find you need to go lighter. Same reason I prefer to leave arrows full length. More options in the long run. I would rather change the head than have to try to remove inserts. But I mostly tune knowing my heads will fall between 200-300g and I find trad BHs pretty easy to find in that range.

 

Thanks. My thoughts exactly. I've never understood the inserts since there are so many two blade broadheads that are between 200 and 300 grains.

 

Agreed 100 percent


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I prefer the insert route. If the 175s, 200 or 250 grain heads have me a wider cut I would say they were worth the extra cost and effort to get. However I shoot 160 grains up front. A 50 grain insert weight and a 100 grain head I can buy almost anywhere is usable with just a couple 5 grain brass rings added. Less expensive, easier to find and just as deadly.

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This is my thought process as well. I can walk into most archery stores and find 100 or 125 grain Magnus Stingers. Heads in this weight class are generally cheaper too.

 

I also use heavier inserts. One reason is more broadhead options from 125-175. Also feel that heavier inserts are tougher when it comes to impacts. Inserts are easy to get in and out. Use hot melt and when you need adjust the alignment of your broadheads or remove the inserts to cut shafts for tuning just throw a field point in and heat the point up. Leather gloves and pliers and turns the insert. Just don’t put flame to carbon.

 

Once you've taken ONE heavy insert out of an arrow you will be heard saying, "WHY DIDN'T I LISSON TO MOOG?" AND then you might have 11 more to go.

I usually tune for a 200 grain head and end up heavier. The reason I tune for 200 is that there's a lot of 160 grain heads I like. Most of the time I end with a 125 grain adaptor which gives me 285. I use a Snuffer for whitetails and smaller and if I'm hunting bigger I use a STOS - both 160.

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I don't like heavier than normal inserts either. I've never felt broadhead choice was compromised in heavy weights, at least up to 250 grains or so. In fact I prefer the broadheads available in the heavy weights, VPA in particular although there are lots of others.

If you absolutely want to use a particular broadhead that only comes in one weight, and that weight is tough to tune to or you don't want to cut your shafts, then heavier inserts are the way to go.

 

Ha! Did something right on first attempt. Moog told me to try vpa 3 blade bh, with some weight. Turns out my 42lb bow tuned with a 175gr field point, so I found a 175gr vpa bh and it shot in the same group at 20. It blew through a muley buck at 15 yards, and worked perfectly. I just have the factory screw in inserts. Ebay has a ton of diff weight heads, and that's how I got mine. This forum has produced accurate information from people who want to see you succeed. Big thankyou to everyone! Mark

 

Hey Keeper, there's something we disagree on. Much easier to use a Woody Weight than a heavy insert in my opinion.

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Not that you can pick up at the average archery shop or sporting goods store. You can find 100 and 125 grain heads anywhere. I only took some practice arrows to the ranch. My two partners showed up and all wanted to hunt. One of them loaned me some 100 grain Thunderheads and I was gtg. If I was running 160 grain field points instead of 60 grains of added insert weights that wouldn't have been possible.
To each his/her own.

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Both! Get as much up front as possible now that's only my opinion, do what works for you...

 

I like both and currently run 100 gr brass inserts (500 gr shaft with 250 gr tip). One benefit I found is the heavy inserts run about 5/8" longer than standard aluminum. This renders more of the shaft inflexible and allows me to use more weight up front for more foc (and I love me some foc).

That much weight would "normally" weaken the dynamic spine but I find most of that is counteracted by the longer insert rendering more of the shaft inflexible, almost like shooting a shorter (stiffer) arrow.

Emrah


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food for thought