well my new Hoyt VE finally got here, after 2 1/2 weeks, but I ordered it with spirals, and it came with cam.5+ on it. Hopefully they can get me new cams and strings shipped asap so I can have it set up next week. My PE's always took about 8 weks or longer to get. Really surprised on the turn around time for it, but disappointed on the error made. Goes to show we are all still human. Oh well, I can wait a little longer to get it all tuned up and shootin X's!!