Sure...there are myriad scenarios one could contrive. In the context of "hunting," not so much.

 

well if my family was hungry and i could not provide for them any other way i would have no qualms about feeding them the best way i could.

 

1. Sell the weapon you plan on using to break the law......put vittles in the frig, and gas in your tank to look for a job.
2. I bet the IBO would frown on this.......:doh:

 

If a poor man living in the back hills takes a deer every month to help feed his family - I have no issue whatsoever. But some jackass using a spotlight to shoot a deer and then cutting the head off for the antlers should be put in that prisom where you work . . .

 

x 1,00,000

 

Where I hunt is the one of the poorest counties in Ohio and there is alot of poaching, BUT from talking to all of the neighbors they only do it to survive. I personally don't have a problem with it if you really need it to live off of. Take all of the animal dont just take the quarters and back straps and leave the bucks alone

 

poaching is poaching....plenty of things for people to do or go to get "aid" without having to break the law.....now, it's funny to see a thread like this and some are understanding and say it's ok, but yet the same folks here on AT will trash and throw the book at Ted.....kind of funny to read.

 

+100
The laws are there for a reason. There are food banks and many more efficient ways for you to get food for your family rather than spending time in the woods hunting animals.
If you have to have the meat, contact a bunch of hunters. I love to kill does, especially if it helps someone else out. Saturday we shot one and gave it to a guy who doesn't hunt but has a bunch of kids that needs the meat. He doesn't have to go poach to feed his kids.

Would I turn someone in who was hunting for subsistance, probably not, but I don't think its the right way to go about things.

 

I am out of popcorn....

 

i just bought a box from the local Boy Scout troops, talk about price gouging though, $20 for microwave popkern....i bought a box, got plenty and supported a local cause. :thumb: :lol:

 

I got a situation for the people that say no. You shoot a deer from the stand and then another one comes by that has been shot. You can see the deer is gut shot and not going to make it. You only have one tag and you already used it on the one you just shot. What do you do in that situation?

 

oh boy....you just raised the anty up a bit, i have some popcorn for you as well, hang tight, it gonna get good here in a while. :chortle:

great thread for a thursday!!! :cheers:

 

Well, if all other avenues of getting support are exhausted and the family needs to eat then take the deer.
Also guys what if you are out in the woods or swamp lost and you need to eat to survive, kill a deer or grouse for dinner? Sure you would but what if its not the season, technically its poaching. Like fishing without a license thats poaching but I am sure you would do it to eat.

 

wounded from a vehicle, caught up bad in barb-wire, showing signs of cwd or something along the lines of helping to ease suffering. Understandable.

because your hungry? Go fishin, its easier

 

Without a license it is poaching!!!

 

My county has unlimited doe tags so i pass out meat a lot. the unlimited tags have also reduced the wildlife violations in my county as well.

 

Last year I didn't get a deer because they were poached out during archery season. I had tags, had intent to fill every last one knowing many who needed the meat, those families and myself went without for others who have no care or concern in the world and no respect for other people. I'll admit, a neighbor with family could not afford his license so I let him hunt on extra tags, tags were paid for, kill would have been reported so while not legal it's less of a gray area to ethics.

Hunting is a billion dollar tourist industry where out of town hunters spend allot of money in some of the poorest areas, they license and poaching messes up their hunt, poach too much and they don't come back.

I'm not above poaching, I'd do it myself if I had too, you do what you gotta do to feed your family, thing is when I see this, it's a deer here or there and no big deal but the majority of poaching is from unlicensed hunters or tag reusers who are taking 8-12 deer not just the occasional and that I have a major problem with especially for the above mentioned reason, we are issued enough tags that there is plenty enough to go around for everyone in need.

I have a heart but I'm less tolerant than I used to be. I pay for my tags, they go unfilled because of poaching and I have serious issues with that especially because I share my take with others. Judge here has a heart as well so my opinion has changed to take your plea to the judge I have DEC on speed dial.

 

One thing that keeps coming up is "poaching to feed your family." I think a big question in this country is why do so many people living at or below the poverty line have so many kids? People who could barely feed themselves and their spouse have multiple children...why is that?

 

If funny I almost posed this question last week. I knew a man who has now passed that fed his family with deer meat. If he saw a big buck he would not shoot it because he knew their were people hunting them legally and morally didn't want to take that away from them. At his funeral one of the local conservation officers actually showed up and was very kind about it. On the side he told me that this gentlemen was the best he ever saw(never once got caught even though every co for three counties knew about him).

 

Yes, but if you do it...be prepared to face the consequences!

 

Personally, if you are hunting to provide for your family and are killing to EAT...not for BONE...then I think it should not be illegal. Some people cannot afford to pay the high prices of tags and licenses but have an old shotgun or can build a bow out of natural items...you can purchase shells for a shotgun for 2 dollars and make arrows/arrowheads for free. Life is hard and if we stop people from hunting to survive...it will make it that much harder for all of us.

 

You guys talking about going to the food bank or whatever must live in a decent sized town because many rural areas don't have one. Yeah there are food stamps but there are lots of people that don't qualify for them that still don't make enough to eat well.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong but I am saying that life isn't ever as black and white as you might like it to be.

 

i hate this question even tho a good one cause it goes against lots i believe, but i have a particular instance in mind that even i have a hard time to argue with. not going to say how but " in my area we'll call it" and leave it at that a guy shoots a deer every now and agian to do only 1 thing feed his family being times are tuff. 2 young kids, lost his job and cant find one to pay enough to get by, does not waste the deer. he lives in an area where deer are like flies where seeing herds of 10 here 30 here are common everyday.. and he doesnt over due it. only shoots does

boy i have a hard time even posting this....

 

it's a tough thread for sure...now, with my posts, they sound "cold" but in all honesty, would i turn that person in, probably not....i just would hate for that person to get caught because it's only gonna make matters worse for them and his family....

 

some of you people better Pray to God you never get in a bind.
The way some of you think im sure your wife would have to take over and provide a meal eventually!

 

i have been, more than a few times, even when i was a teen 17 turning 18 with a prego GF....talk about a bind...no place to live, no job, no college, kid on the way....what else you got IB? :wink:

 

my biggest thing about ppl saying it's ok to poach if your trying to feed your family... well instead of poaching why don't you sell the weapon gun,bow whatever and go out and buy some food. it doesn't make since ppl would rather break the law for a little bit of meat when they could just sell the gun used to poach and get some food that way... if your going to poach to feed your family shoot a cow or something get the most bang for your buck. they are both illegall acts and you will get 5-6 times the meat from a cow

 

No way I would ever sell my means of feeding my family for a few meals. I'm not a collector, not a ammunition horder, one small rifle, one shotgun, one bow. Of all the things I own in this world and of all the abilities I have it's my basic skills and basic tools I know that not matter what I can provide food shelter and clothing for my family with. Of all the things I own, my ability to provide for my family will be the very last thing I give up.

 

OK, you've got rabbits and squirrels eating your garden. You shoot a few of them out of season. That's poaching isn't it? Yet, I'm OK with that. Next.

As for the wounded deer coming by after I've already filled my tag........I'm not a bleeding heart, I let him walk and die somewhere else. It's not my deer.

 

OK, you've got rabbits and squirrels eating your garden. You shoot a few of them out of season. That's poaching isn't it? Yet, I'm OK with that. Next.

I don't thank God often enough for the fact that there is no closed season in my county for these varmints.

i have been, more than a few times, even when i was a teen 17 turning 18 with a prego GF....talk about a bind...no place to live, no job, no college, kid on the way....what else you got IB? :wink:

Well, hmmm, if you don't want your girlfriend to get pregnant, why don't you just not have sex?

lol go up to a hungry guy fishing and tell him you will trade some fish for his fishing pole..let me know how stupid he really is!

No way I would ever sell my means of feeding my family for a few meals. I'm not a collector, not a ammunition horder, one small rifle, one shotgun, one bow. Of all the things I own in this world and of all the abilities I have it's my basic skills and basic tools I know that not matter what I can provide food shelter and clothing for my family with. Of all the things I own, my ability to provide for my family will be the very last thing I give up.

I agree with these two.

 

I'll give there are exceptions to the rule but foodstamps are based on average populous and their average food costs, aka cities where food costs more and people who live in rural areas tend to make out like bandits on foodstamps. Hunters also donate their meat if they have a successful year. Making most poaching a matter of greed and arrogance besides the fact the basic hunting license doesn't cost that much.

Let's call it what it is, if you are hungry, there is plenty of other game out there so true need means you hunting more than just deer it's just more work for less meat but it's still good meat that will feed your family. Ever eat squirrel, it's dang good meat, readily available, it's just that's the work for pound is more. Someone who is truly willing to do it right, should have 10 - 20 turkey per every deer they take. Last I checked beaver are pure vegan, petty big, plentiful in swamps, traps don't cost that much, problem with a beaver is it's work to go check a trap every day so people don't want to do it. Here's the kicker, get a trapping license and one could make a living off of pelts.

We're still talking the same welfare class of a lazy society that doesn't want to work. I'll make exceptions but I want to see where the family planted a garden first and has a freezer full of beans before they tell me they have to jack a deer without a license.

 

Well, I sure wouldn't blame you guys out West for shooting wolves, especially now that I see Idaho and Montana got their seasons taken away.

 

Bottom line is any man that needs to feed his family is going to get it done one way or the other and there are plenty of places to turn to for help. I would think poaching wouldn't be needed in most cases but in some it might be. If that's what it takes so be it, do it and get on with it. I personally wouldn't say a word about it but I would first offer any help to the man that I could give.

 

wen selling stuff and jobs arent avaliable to get if not over done and for the reasons to feel families i have absolute no problem with it. 3-5 years ago some families are a complete 180 degrees from where they are today and there lives are super tuff. if someone goes out once in awhile to take not only deer but game for that matter so be it.

but dont go out for horns! dont have freezers full! dont be taking trips or buying new cars! and dont do it everyday! ect ect ect..... in the upper midwest iowa, minnesota, wisconsin, illinois as well as everystate probebly for that matter there are lots of spots where a deer or 2 can be spared for this reason. but dont go out to do it to do it just to shoot deer.