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Ladder stand stability

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#1 ·
Looking for some ideas to help stabilize my ladder stands. They are 22 ft to shooting rail and include one ladder to tree stabilzer. I've thought about 2x4, pvc or emt. I did quick search and didn't find what I was looking for. As always pics are welcome.

Thanks Paul
 
#2 ·
You could make a bolt on truss for both ladder side rails.
I would make the trusses one piece extending from the bottom to the top of the ladder. Use 3/4 emt for the truss rails and 1/4 strap steel for the webs or braces and the gussets. Weld gussets to the bottom side (side that faces the tree) of the ladder sections where the truss will attach. Make several attach points for the truss (the truss would be similar to a ladder but with one rail removed).
Once the ladder sections are assembled at the base of the tree, bolt the trusses on and then stand the ladder up.

Google "beam truss" for a better explanation. You would only need one rail since you will be using the assembled ladder side rail sections as a rail.

Hope that isn't very confusing :darkbeer:
 
#3 ·
Would be kinda awkward carrying in, but you could just use an angle iron on each side extending from the bottom to the top rails. 1 inch angle should give a good amount of stability. Predrill the stand for them, then just bolt them on when you get the stand assembled.
 
#5 ·
This is the cheapest and easiest method I have found. Battery powered cordless tools (circular saw, impact driver) that can be taken into the field make this much easier but everything can be done with hand tools. On a stand as high as yours you could probably use two braces, roughly one at six feet and a second at fifteen feet. Measure the space between the ladder portion of the stand and the tree trunk at the points you would like the braces and add six inches. Go to your favorite home improvement supplier and buy pressure treated 5/4 deck boards in the appropriate lengths to yield the pieces you need.

At home rip the 5/4 boards in half lengthwise with a corded circular saw. Now you will have thin boards with the rounded factory edge on one side and a square edge from the cut you just made. Measure the size of the rail steps on the ladder portion of the stand and cut a notch in the square edge of the deck board; cut the notch three inches in from the end and make it 1/2 inch deeper than the ladder rail but make it a snug fit. Drop this notch onto the ladder rail and fasten the other end to the tree trunk with quality three inch deck screws. No fasteners are needed at the ladder rail. Now cut a piece of blocking to go between the braces to keep them spread.
 
#7 ·
I agree. An extra strap around the tree hooked to the lower platform goes a long way in stabilizing the stand to the tree. Ive never had a tree stand feel unstable and I dont buy real expensive stands. You may want to try and find a better tree, perhaps yours is too small or too tall and the wind is catching it.
 
#8 ·
I like to go up 1 or2 sizes of ratchet strap the ones thats like 4" wide for the main one that goes around the tree and goes in each side of the "tooth bar" with the bigger ratchet you can tighten it down alot more and then you have an extra strap to add at the top or where ever. I have a 2 man ladder at my place only way it ever felt good was took extra strap hooked on to the second step hook on each side against the vertical bars of the ladder and that snugged it up nice.
 
#9 ·
Will be using heavier duty rachet straps. I think the main reason these stands seem a little unsteady when climbing is the ladder support attaches to the middle of the rung so you get some twisting motion when you climb. It's probably not enough to bother most people but the older I get and a family with three young boys to support I like things rock steady.
Keep the suggestions coming. I hope to put up my last two stands this weekend and will report back on what I tried.
 
#13 ·
I was thinking a truss support. Have a bracket in the middle of the ladder about 1 foot our with two long ratchet straps from the Top rung to the bottom. Tighten the straps across the support and it will tighten the ladder.
 
#14 ·
I always put a ratchet strap where the brace goes. I hook it on one side of the ladder, around the tree, and then to the other side of the ladder. Not sure if all tree stands recommend doing that or not, but it helps quite a bit.

I would NOT use pvc unless you use something 4" schedule 40 or larger, which would be cumbersome to say the least. PVC is strong and works great in some applications, this isn't one of them. It gets brittle when cold and exposed to UV, sags when hot, etc etc. A 2x4 would be stronger, better, and cheaper.
 
#15 ·
I think what I'm going to try is cut 2x4 to length with notch for rung then run it back to tree attached with hanger then run ratchet strap around tree back to ladder rungs. I like the truss idea and if time permits will give that a try also. I also have couple of ideas using square tubing that already has holes but that seems a bit expensive.

If all else fails I seen replacement stabilizers at Menard's for about $12-13. Wish I lived in country where I had large tree to test it out on.
 
#16 ·
I have same 20' tall ladder stand set up. I do what mountainman7 did, use another stabilizer bar, just like the one that came with the stand, and add it in .
It does require using a ladder to get a goot installation, but worth the extra time and effort.
 
#18 ·
Well I ended up using a 2x4. I attached it to the tree using gusset hanger and screws. I had to cut notch in opposite end of 2x4 then repurposed a metal strap to hold onto ladder rung. I then ran ratchet strap around tree and back to ladder rung. This made stand a lot more stabile than with just one supplied support. I may modify this in future using 2 2x4 and forming v back to tree so supports wouldn't move side to side.

As others have said I could've just purchased another support but I had these supplies laying around so it only cost me prep time. But for one of the stands store bought would've been too short do to curvature of tree so all worked out well. I will try and add pics next time I get a chance.
 
#20 ·
Get some electrical condiut,,,,1/2 to 1",,,,get come lag bolts,,,,,weld them in at one end,,,that end you will screw into the tree,,,the other end gets attatched to the top of the ladder step(s),,,,cut off protruding conduit and U-bolt it th the step,,or flatten the end of it and drill a hole and screw.nut it to the top or bottom of the steps(s),,,I guarantee nothin works better,,solid as a rock and cheap,,,alot of times if you ask around (electrecal workers,companys,,etc),,,you can pick it up for nothin