I have a cabela's tree stand, about 10-12 years old and I like it alot. I would like another one or 2 but nobody makes anything like it anymore. The stands with flip up seats dont seem to have side rails anymore. While standing, I like my leg/knee up against something for stability and not have to worry about stepping off the edge. The cabelas stand is deep, about 36 inches of platform and about 16 inches wide. Flip the seat and back up against the tree. last year I purchased 2 Big Dog tree stand with flip up seats online and they are horrible. The seat sags in the front because there is nothing but the hinge to support it. Waste of money and I'm going to sell them because I hate them. i dont need a gun rest rail. These cabelas stands ( dont know who actually makes them) are so nice that i added removable bicycle wheels to it and i pull it around like a wheel barrow in reverse for out of state hunts, works like a charm. We actually own 2 of these. my brother uses the other stand and the wheels pin into place in seconds. The seats on these stands rests on the side rails and is very sturdy. A simple design that nobody seems to make anymore. I'll try and get some pictures of it posted here.