There is a thread over on CBN about it, I just seen it yesterday for the first time... Not sure how many states would consider it a crossbow though..... It is a interesting piece of equipment..

Mike

 

Looks good. The owner was on the other thread . We’ll have to see where it’s legal for bow. Definitely thinking outside the box.

 

I like seeing new ideas and folks thinking outside the box. I'm sure it will have some issues to work out like all other new products do but thumbs up the guy's idea and trying to make it work.

 

I like it. However I wonder how many shots the serving will take. Otherwise I like it a lot. Dare I say “G_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ r “?

 

Interesting for sure and it's a unique approach to propelling an arrow. The severe string angles will be a challenge for sure and the fact that there is no "bow" to it will make it illegal in many states for hunting with "archery" equipment.

 

Interesting "outside" the box thinking. The weight alone would rule it out for me, but I applaud the person or people who came up with this concept, and followed through to actually making and producing it for sale. Remains to be see where it may or may not be legal as a crossbow. Certainly is different, and also different than the various air "bows" that are available. This one at least has a string. I wonder if rope cocking a crossbow will someday be something only a few dinosaurs (like me) are still doing.:wink:

 

One thing is for sure, you won't be the only dinosaurs still rope cocking the true stick and string arrow flingers, there may only be two, but I can confirm at least that many,,, :thumbs_up

 

Make that 3 as long as my bad shoulder will let me.

 

I have a 2019 Carbon Express F-Force 390 Pile Driver crossbow. The cranking
device is very similar with the exception of two changes for this Lancehead crossbow:
1)the crank appears to be fastened to the winch or it may push on. One would have to
physically inspect it (referring to the silver center which could be the winch shaft).
2)this winch system for the Lancehead uses a sled where as my Carbon Express uses hooks.

The winch is very high quality, quiet and one can stop cocking anywhere between the start
and the fully cocked position. With mine, if ones hand came off the crank or the crank popped
off, there is no chance of a dry fire or the crank spinning backward. My crank is removable. It
has 4 dowel holes in the winch which allows the crank to be installed in 1 of 4 positions. The
crank will work on either side.

Doing a search on their site, there is a well written manual with high quality diagrams. The
only thing I would not do is use my fingers to load an arrow in place of the included tool.

Their website lists the crossbow near the $2000.00 U.S. value with no international shipping
at the present time.

All the best.

 

Video.....

Mike

 

I held one today at our Dixie Deer Classic,,, the guy there said there are only 2 now, but there should be more assembled soon.
While I do appreciate the mechanical differences and outside the box thinking to launch an arrow, it seemed well built,
it seemed very heavy and front heavy, also felt long, the scope was too far back and I don't know how eye relief could be fixed? It needed to be more forward, I didn't really get past the weight and feel and how the arrow felt pretty light, 370-375 fps was what the guy told me it would shoot that arrow. I did ask a wildlife guy if would legal here during bow season and he said he thinks it will.
For $2000 it's priced where other high end bows are priced I guess ...

 

I held one today at our Dixie Deer Classic,,, the guy there said there are only 2 now, but there should be more assembled soon.
While I do appreciate the mechanical differences and outside the box thinking to launch an arrow, it seemed well built,
it seemed very heavy and front heavy, also felt long, the scope was too far back and I don't know how eye relief could be fixed? It needed to be more forward, I didn't really get past the weight and feel and how the arrow felt pretty light, 370-375 fps was what the guy told me it would shoot that arrow. I did ask a wildlife guy if would legal here during bow season and he said he thinks it will.
For $2000 it's priced where other high end bows are priced I guess ...

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Are you saying it was heavy or light weight?

 

An update to Post #10 (1). Checking my Carbon crank, the center that one views
on the video when the crank is installed, is the shaft of the winch. There fore the
crank slides over that when it is installed and two dowel pins on the crank fit into
2 of the 4 recessed dowel holes on the winch drum. The crank will work on either
side of the crossbow.
Sorry for my error.

In the picture submitted in Post #12, the scope can be moved farther forward as
there is still room on the picatinny rail. Changing the scope rings to one screw on
each side would make for a narrower set of rings, allowing for more movement of
the scope.
All the best.

 

I have wondered for the last few years if this would work. Glad to see it does!

I think it would look far better if they put the springs in the stock to hide them

All they need to do is get a celebrity to shoot it and they will sell like hotcakes

 

Interesting idea..no thanks for me...

 

Some equipment definitions call for flexible limbs,kinda hard to call a spring steel coil a limb

 

Maybe they can should call it the ultimate recurve... they recurved a steel limb a lot! Now we might have to worry about our limbs having too much curve in them if they try to restrict this bow with a vague definition of limbs.

 

2K for the package on their website. I’d like to shoot that thing I must admit.

 

I would too. This might be a generation 1 proof of concept type of deal. If it makes it, I expect the Gen 2 will be a major step up.
It has long , curled limbs.

 

It shoots an arrow, but what makes it a bow?

 

Same argument has been used against crossbows too. Just saying


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Hi Randy! So glad you could make it to the booth. Thanks for your feedback. We designed the deep stock relief so that a shooter would not have to strain the neck forward to bear-down on the stock... Initially, this does feel a little different that what shooters are accustom to. Our design allows you to keep the neck straight up and down so there is not strain during the shot. This is also why the eye relief felt too close for you most likely. Here's a photo of me from the manual just tilting my head a little to the side to shoot. I've hunted with this crossbow for over a couple years and have really grow to like this... especially in a deer stand where neck strain to more pronounced because the targets are below you.

 

We respect everyone is entitled to their opinion, so this is provided only as a basis for our perspective. Archery is the only industry that calls a leaf spring a bow and a flat spring a limb. In trucks, the rear suspension is often called a leaf spring. So we use the term torsion limb because we use it for archery. The advantages it holds for hunters is valuable. While crossbows have used metal in the past, our torsion limb design is very compact and nearly unbreakable-- rated for 1M cycles. Other materials have demonstrated their difficulties in driving compact reliability.

 

As for weight, we've hunted with this crossbow for a couple years and haven't really had issues in the field because it carries comfortably on a sling over the shoulder (even with a climber statnd on your back) and we don't typically shoot 'off-hand' in hunting situations. Our experience is that the weight and balance add to maintaining steady aim in hunting situations.

 

As for weight, we've hunted with this crossbow for a couple years and haven't really had issues in the field because it carries comfortably on a sling over the shoulder (even with a climber statnd on your back) and we don't typically shoot 'off-hand' in hunting situations. Our experience is that the weight and balance add to maintaining steady aim in hunting situations. View attachment 7095539

Thanks for the info Joe C!

 

I guess it is a bow, because a gun is a FIREarm to me. Sure does look different, though. It's too new for me. I wonder what bugs will develop at time passes.

 

I think it is a very cool design. It shows a lot of ingenuity. IMO, since current crossbows are in a speed race, I think for this bow to gain traction in the market it is going to need significantly more performance. At least 400 fps. More would be better.

 

Very interesting concept. I wish them the best with their endeavors.


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Amazing Invention 2020 Crossbow of The Year.

 

Let me tell you this. If states laws won't ban it will sell. Not much because it is 13 lbs. Lets say Ravin is 6.5 lbs.

 

What changes or improvements have been since this thread been started .
-Interested to see this crossbow in my blind soon .
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