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LCA VaneMaster Pro

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Got this a while back, and must say I am very impressed with it. Adjustability and precision is amazing. It is worth every penny in my opinion. Anyone wanting to know if it is worth it…my vote is yes. I also looked at the Firenock/Aerovane jigs…but the fact that you really can’t fletch left offset/helical quickly disqualifies that one for me. Anyone else have the VMP, and your thoughts on yours? Love this one so far.
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#2 ·
Agreed 100%. It's WAY better than the most commonly used Bitzenburger jig in my opinion. I have tried them all, but the Vane Master Pro is absolutely worth it!
 
#3 ·
I owned a VMP for awhile. I sold it because I was using more and more feathers. I couldnt get an acceptable result with feathers. That said.... I wish I kept it.
It was the most precise fletcher Ive used. It is heads and shoulders above most others when replacing just one vane. It is a great piece of equipment. I just didnt need it anymore. But if you dont use feathers and only want one high quality jig. I would recommend a VMP.
 
#4 ·
Nice unit I have one. Unfortunately feathers are a no go that’s where Bitz surpasses it. Also 4” doesn’t do so well either they get tight top and bottom of the wires and can pull the vane off if you don’t wait a good long time whereas when doing 2 inch or 3 inch you can usually attach and almost pull immediately back off moving onto next vane.
 
#6 ·
I love the design, just not the price tag. And if I’m being really honest my shooting isn’t good enough, and probably will never be good enough to actually benefit from the extra precision.

I’ve thought about trying to DIY a similar setup for fun since I really don’t like the Bitz clone I’ve been using for a couple years now (plastic one sold by Bohning).
 
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Very good points on feathers and 4”+ vanes. I don’t use either, but if I did, I would buy a cheaper jig for those. For what I do though, I haven’t seen a better option. I do agree they could easily make a different wire clamp for longer vanes and maybe something for feathers. I’m actually surprised they have not done that yet.
 
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Not impressed. One arrow at a time is not for me. When I fletch it's normally a dozen or more. I want done today, not tomorrow. I serious doubt the VMP can out do any fletching jig as long as the operator knows what's they are doing.
Fact is, most all fletching issues are due to the operator, not whatever fletching jig.

I have the multi-Jo-Jans - 4 of them (2 with straight clamps and 2 with helical clamps). I fletch full helical and if I lose a vane I just stick arrow back in, rotate to miss vane and be dead on.
I have a stand alone Mon Jo-Jan and a nearing 40 year old Martin jig (heavy Plastic) and both fletch great.......
 
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Not impressed. One arrow at a time is not for me. When I fletch it's normally a dozen or more. I want done today, not tomorrow. I serious doubt the VMP can out do any fletching jig as long as the operator knows what's they are doing.
Fact is, most all fletching issues are due to the operator, not whatever fletching jig.

I have the multi-Jo-Jans - 4 of them (2 with straight clamps and 2 with helical clamps). I fletch full helical and if I lose a vane I just stick arrow back in, rotate to miss vane and be dead on.
I have a stand alone Mon Jo-Jan and a nearing 40 year old Martin jig (heavy Plastic) and both fletch great.......
It's to each his own I guess. I've just never found good success with those kinds of jigs, and I've had even WORSE success with the Arizona EZ-Fletch and Bohning jigs that do all 3 or 4 vanes at a time. The Vane Master Pro is definitely slower, but I love the precision, accuracy, and options that I get out of it. Plus not having to scrape tons of built up glue off the metal jig when I'm done is another bonus. Everyone has their own process I guess!
 
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#13 · (Edited)
I've owned the Vane Master Pro, Bitzenburger, AZ EZ Fletch, and others.... what I've learned from that experience is they all have pros and cons.

The VMP is a great fletcher. Probably the only cons of the VMP are the price and additional costs for parts to support 4 fletch. Once you understand how to twist the wires and get a well seated vane, it's a tinkering dream... from 5 left to 5 right, you can go nuts with it.

For down and dirty 3 vane high helical setups for hunting distances, can't beat the AZ EZ Fletch Mini Max. You can get the job done considerably faster, but it's a one trick pony.

For a bell curve arrow with 2-3 degree helical setups for both target and hunting, left and right helical, 3 and 4 vane configurations with the additional option of up to 6, you can't beat the Bitz. It's the most versatile option and best bang for the buck considering the longevity.
 
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Ya know, it's funny. You see all the pros talk about how great TAC vanes are in videos and marketing crap. Go to a tournament and shoot with the pros... they all complain about adhesion and vanes randomly just popping off their arrows. I know you gotta talk products up to make sales, but to keep saying how TAC vanes "WILL NEVER COME OFF", and it basically be a flat out lie is ridiculous. Rant over.
 
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I see others feel the do all vanes at once are so quick and faster. Well it takes about 2 mins with the VMP once setup 3 or 4 fletch. The vane holder can be slid back of the vane and arrow rotated after about 10 secs if set in the holder without pinching top or bottom on the wires. So 1.5-3” are a super breeze. Dozen easily in less than an hr.
 
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And when I blew through my older target, it was still hell pulling them through the back side of the target….it’s not like they just slipped right out. I literally had to put the target face to the ground, stand on the target…and yank the arrows out the back….for some clarification.
 
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Good fletching work, good vanes }(Bohning), good glue (Bohning Platinum) and wonders do happen. Bohning 2 1/4" X vane in Shield cut - through truck bed liner - twice. Used Multi Jo-Jan fletching jig.

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4 and 5 inches vanes? No problem.

4" Bohning Impulse.

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5" AAE.

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Feathers? No problem. Full length of clamp......

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#22 ·
I think there are 2 key points with the TAC Vanes to use them successfully:

1. Prep - Clean shaft, primer and minimal glue

2. Seating the vane - Need to make sure you get the air out so you will get good adhesion (I typically "Roll" the vane from bottom to top and then press firmly on the fletching jig.. you can see when all the air is gone and it is nothing but glue (Much easier in my opinion with the clamp on the bitz instead of the wires on the VMP...but I am sure others will have differing opinions.)

If you have all the above you typically will not have any issues using the TAC vanes. I like them for their light weight and stiffness so I have taken the time to make sure to do it right and the same way every time I fletch them. I have it down to a science.

Any other vane I am all over the VMP..

My .02 and experience.
 
#23 ·
Now I know why I always lost at the nationals, inferior fletching application with the Bitz.
 
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#36 ·
Didn't take so long for such a simple topic to go sideways...

Just picked one up from the classifieds; like it so far but still just playing with it [got a lot of shafts with one or two vanes on ;) ]. Like others, wish feathers were easier and more than 4" was possible, but if wishes were fishes... Going to keep my JoJan for the outliers but the versatility of the VMP is nice.
 
#37 ·
I cant speak highly enough about the VMP. Its the best jig I have ever used. Yes its pricy. Yes cheaper jigs will fletch arrows. But the ease in which you can change things up like helical and vane types is unparalleled. I have had zero issue with any fletching up to 4" in length. I dont use anything longer or feathers. But I do still have an old muti-fletch Jo-Jan if I ever use feathers. Its a precision tool.
 
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I’ve got 2 bohning tower jigs, Bitz with left and right clamps and aae bitz knobs, a AZ Ez fletch mini max, and a VMP. I have fletched a ton of arrows with them all. They all do their job but none are perfect. VMP is expensive and so are its accessories. The bitz with the factory knob was ok but with the bitz knobs it’s definitely better than before. The tower and Ez fletch are 3 vane at once kings and occasionally they get off when fletching and are not perfectly aligned. I definitely wouldn’t buy a VMP at the price now, I bought mine a few years ago used on here and I still paid $200 for it. They all do their job
 
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I I bought mine a few years ago used on here and I still paid $200 for it. They all do their job
The price has went up quite a bit. I think I only paid about $200 for mine also. I wish I would have hung on to it because I am using more vanes than feathers. But quite satisfied with the Bitz and Ez fletch Mini Max.
But I still think they are a very good fletcher.
 
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Down in my man cave archery room at present, I have shaft #6 in one of my two Bitz jigs nearly done up for hunting season this fall. My first Bitz was purchased about 1977-78 and the other about 1982, when then were considerably less than they are today. I'm guessing I have into both jigs that came with straight clamps, plus the two RH helical clamps for hunting, what a new one costs today. That a VMP or Firenock jig costs more is not an issue.....they can charge what they want and I have the ability to decide what is worth the money to me. If I was at all dissatisified with my Bitz, I would have been looking and "upgrading" years ago.....but I am not. As other have noted, each design has pros and cons.....so it boils down to ROI....what each user affirms as 'worth it' for a given fletching tool.

When I fletch arrows I am not doing so to just 'get them done'....it is more an expression of personal creativity and craftsmsnship that I have developed over 4+ decades of archery experience. I don't care if it takes me 3 days to fletch six arrows because I apply a vane, go do something else and come back when I think about it. Before I turned the TV off last night, I put on the cock vane on the final shaft and went to bed with the Bob Smith Ind. Maxi-cure having all night to set up. This morning after I fully woke up, I went downstairs and changed another one.....that is my normal pace because I don't tend to rush archery related techniques. That others want to do a dozen at a time is fully their personal choice and I respect that as well.

Glad that some of you have experienced success and satisfaction with your VMP. I bought an LCA EZ Green press for my '23 Athens Vista 35 because the older BTM wasn't quite doing the job. I get it.....and fully understand that folks have different preferences, budgets and expectations than I do. This is not a right or wrong discussion.....just a different way to skin the proverbial cat. Just don't talk down other tools to make your favorite sound better.....they all have pros and cons.
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#47 ·
Down in my man cave archery room at present, I have shaft #6 in one of my two Bitz jigs nearly done up for hunting season this fall. My first Bitz was purchased about 1977-78 and the other about 1982, when then were considerably less than they are today. I'm guessing I have into both jigs that came with straight clamps, plus the two RH helical clamps for hunting, what a new one costs today. That a VMP or Firenock jig costs more is not an issue.....they can charge what they want and I have the ability to decide what is worth the money to me. If I was at all dissatisified with my Bitz, I would have been looking and "upgrading" years ago.....but I am not. As other have noted, each design has pros and cons.....so it boils down to ROI....what each user affirms as 'worth it' for a given fletching tool.

When I fletch arrows I am not doing so to just 'get them done'....it is more an expression of personal creativity and craftsmsnship that I have developed over 4+ decades of archery experience. I don't care if it takes me 3 days to fletch six arrows because I apply a vane, go do something else and come back when I think about it. Before I turned the TV off last night, I put on the cock vane on the final shaft and went to bed with the Bob Smith Ind. Maxi-cure having all night to set up. This morning after I fully woke up, I went downstairs and changed another one.....that is my normal pace because I don't tend to rush archery related techniques. That others want to do a dozen at a time is fully their personal choice and I respect that as well.

Glad that some of you have experienced success and satisfaction with your VMP. I bought an LCA EZ Green press for my '23 Athens Vista 35 because the older BTM wasn't quite doing the job. I get it.....and fully understand that folks have different preferences, budgets and expectations than I do. This is not a right or wrong discussion.....just a different way to skin the proverbial cat. Just don't talk down other tools to make your favorite sound better.....they all have pros and cons.
I could not agree more, well said. I don’t care if it takes a little longer, and I don’t care that other jigs are ‘good enough’…or who uses what. I like precision, I am a CNC machinist by trade, so I am a perfectionist with the worst case of OCD…to the point I think they came up with a new ‘condition’ just for me…called it OCD-AF I think, haha. I just feel like the precision, and consistency just is not there with most other jigs. Bitz can do a great job, but I feel the VMP can do better, the design, adjustability, and precision just pretty much makes that a fact. Those other jigs are great, and if people are happy with them, AWESOME!! I am happy for those people. I didn’t make this post for people to get on and argue about it, but this is the internet, and that’s what people do here…so it is, what it is I guess. I made the post to say how happy I am, WITH MINE…and to see other’s experiences with theirs. I am really happy with mine…so much I am considering buying LCA’s Revolution Arrow Tuner….and that sucker is over $500!!! I bet that REALLY chaps some people’s @$$es….but hey, it’s what I wanna spend my money on….and I wanna see how perfect I can build an arrow. And I absolutely believe, 100%, that even a decent shooter, with awesome, perfectly consistent arrows, WILL be able to tell a difference and shoot better…but hey, that’s my opinion, and my money spent…and I’m damn happy with my choices so far. Seems like the same thing as my Arxos sights….I’m happy with them, but some people just can’t stand that fact, or the fact of the cost….and don’t like them, so they MUST get in a public forum and let everyone know their feelings are hurt because some has the audacity to have a different opinion🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
#48 ·
I get it.....a small dose of OCD here too.....but not as expansive as others. With your background, it makes perfect sense for you to go beyond good or even better to what you feel is the best tool for the job at hand. I don't have to agree in order to respect your opinions, because it is your paycheck or savings that is footing the costs....not mine. So far in 2023, I've purchased a new bow, LCA EZ Green press and Archery Designz draw board attachment.....so I understand investing in what you think is best for your present and future needs.

I do think there is a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to some who post about spending big dollars to have the best to brag on it. Not even a hint of that in your posts, but others carry a not-so-subtle tinge of superiority that they have an $1800 carbon bow, $500 sight, $1000 saddle setup, matching camo wardrobe that is pushing $1500, $1k climber, Zamberlain or Crispi boots, Swaro binos, etc....the list goes on and on. A lot boils down to disposable income and the level of emphasis the individual places on both the process and results.
 
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I get it.....a small dose of OCD here too.....but not as expansive as others. With your background, it makes perfect sense for you to go beyond good or even better to what you feel is the best tool for the job at hand. I don't have to agree in order to respect your opinions, because it is your paycheck or savings that is footing the costs....not mine. So far in 2023, I've purchased a new bow, LCA EZ Green press and Archery Designz draw board attachment.....so I understand investing in what you think is best for your present and future needs.

I do think there is a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to some who post about spending big dollars to have the best to brag on it. Not even a hint of that in your posts, but others carry a not-so-subtle tinge of superiority that they have an $1800 carbon bow, $500 sight, $1000 saddle setup, matching camo wardrobe that is pushing $1500, $1k climber, Zamberlain or Crispi boots, Swaro binos, etc....the list goes on and on. A lot boils down to disposable income and the level of emphasis the individual places on both the process and results.
Exactly. And it's not necessarily about "how much money someone makes", but moreso what that person spends their money on. A person making 50k a year may decide to spend his/her leftover income on a motorcycle, while another person making 50k a year may decide to spend that money on high-end hunting and archery equipment. Both people make the same amount of money, but they decided to spend their leftover money on two completely different things.