[dk_ace]

In the incredibly unlikely event that I would build hunting arrows for profit, they’re charging about what I would for them. It’s a tedious and very time consuming process that takes skill and a lot of experience to know how to do it right.

As long as they follow Levi’s procedure, which I’m pretty sure they do, I fully expect he’s using them to build his arrows. It sucks, if he could get someone to do it right for him why wouldn’t he?

I know how to do it myself and will invest the time to do my own arrows because I don’t want to spend that much to have someone else do it. I don’t slight anyone for paying to have someone else do it though. No one is forcing anyone to buy arrows here.

I see the comments about gullible beginners, and I don’t buy it. If a beginner really has the finances to drop a grand on arrows, then let them. They’ll get better arrows presumably than they would be able to do themselves, which will help them hit what they’re aiming at. Some people have more money than time, and they spend the money to let them use what time they have for things they enjoy. If you have 4 hours a week for archery and plenty of money, would you rather spend 4 hours building arrows or shooting them?

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[rjskee76]

all i can say is YIKES. that’s a lot of kool aid to drink. View attachment 7838059

this is without field tips and without broad heads by the way. i think it was $30 more for field tips and $50 more for broad heads.
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I wouldn’t buy anything from someone who supports poachers(Bowmars)!!

 

[GetHomeSafe]

all i can say is YIKES. that’s a lot of kool aid to drink. View attachment 7838059

this is without field tips and without broad heads by the way. i think it was $30 more for field tips and $50 more for broad heads.
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Personally, for myself, I would consider it a waste off money. But I enjoy building them. And I have better things to do with ~$600/doz. But it's the buyers money not mine and if they think it's worth it. Then that's fine for them. It supports American small business, that's good.

 

[Oloto]

all i can say is YIKES. that’s a lot of kool aid to drink. View attachment 7838059

this is without field tips and without broad heads by the way. i think it was $30 more for field tips and $50 more for broad heads.
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They'll sell. People look for any excuse to not hitting the x every time. Nobody looks in the mirror anymore and say " Maybe It's My form. Always blame anything but ourselves. If your forms on, you'll shoot well with any arrow

 

[Ho5tile1]

Well I must admit I bought a Bow Life T-shirt last fall that states, "I Identify as a Bowhunter". Levi and Samantha are not going to be seeing much more from my bank account in regards to "custom" arrows, TAC vanes and such though. It is the American way to market your success......just as Mathews has done exceedingly well.....and apparently the Bow Life folks learned well from being associated. Not sure what it costs or returns for producing a TV hunting show, but travel and tags for all those destinations....sometimes for two.....certainly add up. Your arrow purchases will be assisting the '23 hunting season productions.

I purchased that same shirt lol last October


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[elvspec]

What I find most disconcerting about this and other high dollar market components is that people just getting into archery are convinced that this is whats required to shoot. Whether that come from lack of knowledge, pressure by peers or others that if your not shooting the top of the line you suck or otherwise doesn't matter. There's a tremendous intimidation factor from a "cost for entry" standpoint that I hear often. And when items like this become the norm it's no wonder.

 

[highwaynorth]

I'm not interest in shooting GT Pierce arrows at any price.

 

[1004719]

I took time to go through the whole bunch of replies here. Interesting. OK, I got my first fiberglass recurve and Port Orford Cedar arrows in about 1956-1957. Not really sure. I noticed that there were several comments on celebrities and endorsements. I don't buy anything endorsed as I feel I'm just adding to their bank account. Read where Nike pays Tiger Woods a six figure endorsement fee. What is that minimum? Ten million? I don't buy Nike as a result. There are those who can afford to drop big money for cars, homes, bows, arrows, boats, etc. Or are they in debt up to their eyebrows? 'm not one to spend extravagantly and never been one...unless I win the lottery. Then watch out!

 

[Benzy2]

I don’t honestly care, just like the IW thread. I think it’s over priced for what you get. It’s all standard off the shelf components built (hopefully) very well. That’s great. Plenty of builders will do the same for less. I don’t see spending extra to have his name on the label. But if people find the build process used in these to be what they want and the components what they want or even just like the name on the tag, that’s their money and fine with me.

I’m cheap. I’m going to keep shooting Victor Vforce arrows until they don’t work. So far they’ve been fine with basic components, pre fletched/glued or done at home. The day I think they are holding me back, I’ll buy something else. I don’t see that day coming anytime soon, though a good deal when I’m running low can always sway my wallet.

 

[Smada962]

I took time to go through the whole bunch of replies here. Interesting. OK, I got my first fiberglass recurve and Port Orford Cedar arrows in about 1956-1957. Not really sure. I noticed that there were several comments on celebrities and endorsements. I don't buy anything endorsed as I feel I'm just adding to their bank account. Read where Nike pays Tiger Woods a six figure endorsement fee. What is that minimum? Ten million? I don't buy Nike as a result. There are those who can afford to drop big money for cars, homes, bows, arrows, boats, etc. Or are they in debt up to their eyebrows? 'm not one to spend extravagantly and never been one...unless I win the lottery. Then watch out!

If you truly are buying nothing that is endorsed by someone, that leaves almost nothing left. Almost every single major product, brand, etc, has someone somewhere endorsing it. I don't know if there is even one archery company that is not endorsing or sponsoring someone, same with vehicles, and just about every other industry out there.

 

[Dickenscpa]

This is the part that really sticks in my craw as well. Celebrity hunters hawking products you don't really see them using. Scents come to mind as most show a celebrity hunter spraying down with a particular scent killer prior to a hunt.....but was that just for the camera or did they actually go hunt? You see them using a scent or a dripper or scent jammer spray on stand, but was that really just part of a commercial segment? When old Lee Lakosky is on a big one on his property, you don't see many scent drippers or sprays in use. He makes sure the Mathews label is shown, along with his sponsored brand of camo and treestand, but other stuff just seems to be commerical add-ons for some name recognition and $$$. Holding up a package during the recovery/hero photo segment is often different than what was being actively used while pursuing that trophy.

I believe it is fairly normal for folks to at least ponder about being sponsored and either getting things for free or highly discounted as a perk for their name association. But that also come with a catch.....either they end up lying as noted above... .using what they know works and pretending it was something else to sell a product they are sponsored to support......or they forced by conscience to use something lesser because it is in their lineup.

While those "custom" LRP arrows don't offer real choices of caps and vanes and such, I'm guessing Levi is still building his own using the colors and components he personally prefers. As far as being part of AT.....a few weeks ago Tom Miranda supposedly came to AT and posted.....then was banned almost immediately? Something fishy about that situation and also about celebs who "hate" AT. Maybe at shows and photo ops folks will be all smiles and handshakes, but using an online website, many are far more direct and inquisitive about reality vs perception. If you cannot check your ego at the door on a site like AT, it can be rough for the kid gloves type of folks who clearly enjoy celebrity status and treatment.

I didn't see anything from Tom Miranda on here, but during tax season I'm on the internet spotty at best. But, since you brought Tom Miranda up I have a story about him. He is sponsored by IQ sights and after I had my health issue and had to switch from left to right hand shooting I bought an IQ sight for that retina line up thing because shooting right handed was just so foreign to me. IQ used to make a 2X lens for that site which wasn't really strong enough but helped a bit. It was also a weird size so I couldn't get another brand I would have to have one custom made and that sight just wasn't worth that expense to me.

I looked EVERYWHERE for someplace that had one in stock because IQ had quit making them. I made a comment on some forum or social page somewhere and Tom Miranda saw it. He said he was sponsored by them, thought he had a few laying around, give him my address and he'd send me one. He wouldn't let me give him a dime and he sent the lens, a signed hat and some DVDs.

So other than seeing him on his show, the only personal interaction I've had with Tom Miranda was very good and in talking with him over the phone he just seemed like a real nice standup guy.

 

[dk_ace]

What I find most disconcerting about this and other high dollar market components is that people just getting into archery are convinced that this is whats required to shoot. Whether that come from lack of knowledge, pressure by peers or others that if your not shooting the top of the line you suck or otherwise doesn't matter. There's a tremendous intimidation factor from a "cost for entry" standpoint that I hear often. And when items like this become the norm it's no wonder.

Please find me a real person somewhere who is new to the sport and really believes that the only way they’ll be able to hunt effectively is with these LRP arrows. I’m pretty sure you won’t find a single human that matches your definition, but maybe I’m wrong.

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[Bobbysurrett]

Is he stupid? Or does he think that many out here are that stupid?

There are that many out there that are stupid. I know one of them and he already has bought two dozen of them. I'll stick with Easton 5mm spt for 150 Alex lol

 

[Arrowbender]

Please find me a real person somewhere who is new to the sport and really believes that the only way they’ll be able to hunt effectively is with these LRP arrows. I’m pretty sure you won’t find a single human that matches your definition, but maybe I’m wrong.

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Do you mean, find me archers influenced by "famous hunter endorsed products" because "they must therefore be good"?

I don't even have to use the search engine, here you go.

Water target

Recently purchased some head hunter broadheads from the man the myth Tim Wells. Head Hunter Broadheads On the website it says to use them only on water targets, some searching around yields no results. Is he talking about just shooting it into standing water? That doesn't seem like a good way...

www.archerytalk.com

 

[dk_ace]

Do you mean, find me archers influenced by "famous hunter endorsed products" because "they must therefore be good"?

I don't even have to use the search engine, here you go.

Water target

Recently purchased some head hunter broadheads from the man the myth Tim Wells. Head Hunter Broadheads On the website it says to use them only on water targets, some searching around yields no results. Is he talking about just shooting it into standing water? That doesn't seem like a good way...

www.archerytalk.com

No, I mean exactly what I said. The thread you linked to didn’t address what I said in the least.

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[194373]

all i can say is YIKES. that’s a lot of kool aid to drink. View attachment 7838059

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They're out of their ever-loving minds. The whole archery industry in the US has gone insane. Is it any wonder why more and more archery products from China are getting popular? I just commented on another thread about a rangefinder that cost $300. I replied with a link to one that I paid $70 for on Amazon and it works flawlessly - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B7JGFBX5?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

 

[Arrowbender]

No, I mean exactly what I said. The thread you linked to didn’t address what I said in the least.

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Then, if taken literally, I think the hyperbole is irrelevant and a deflection.
No one buys any famous-hunter-endorsed product because they " believe that the only way they’ll be able to hunt effectively ".
They do buy it because they believe it will allow them to hunt more effectively, seeing as big shot so-and-so claims so. That's the whole marketing angle behind these endorsements.

 

[dk_ace]

Then, if taken literally, I think the hyperbole is irrelevant and a deflection.
No one buys any famous-hunter-endorsed product because they " believe that the only way they’ll be able to hunt effectively ".
They do buy it because they believe it will allow them to hunt more effectively, seeing as big shot so-and-so claims so. That's the whole marketing angle behind these endorsements.

Well, it will live up to its claim. You’ll be able to hit your target more accurately (hunt more effectively) with the kind of arrow he’s building than with a more poorly built arrow. Building GT Pierce’s for hunting that are accurate is not a trivial exercise, particularly if using the outsert system. If someone has the money and doesn’t want to fuss with learning it or knows how and just doesn’t want to do it, it’s a fit.

I’d advise a beginner to order a premade 6mm arrow from a less expensive source, get an arrow spinner and a good set of broadheads and learn how to use them. But, the LRP promises to be a one-stop shop for a higher performance arrow than that.

The name of the darn thing is Long Range Precision, so this is not a beginner product. It’s for people wanting a very high performance arrow that costs them zero time at the expense of a lot of money.

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[elncalls]

My Easton 6.5 Match Grades have not let me down yet. Of course I am a backyard champion and public land nonexistent deer chaser, but I have plenty money left over for other archery vices!

 

[1642]

for that price you could get the arrows and components, fletching jig and instruction booklet and do them yourself.....forever