[sunaj]

I' m in trouble now-after years of recurves, I stepped into longbows and bought a couple of bows, a holmes 68# and a Kinkoho from Dan Quillian 70#. This is what bows are about, says my brain as I pull these wonderful, slim creatures back and let an arrow loose.
However as these are not center shot I see my beloved CE 300s won't work with these, seems the spine is too stiff. Interested in what other longbowmen are shooting. I have a 27" draw but in the past I prefer to shoot full length carbons for a variety of reasons. Realizing one cannot actually tune arrows to a bow except thru trial and error, I am interested in what other longbowmen are using and works for them, thanks sunaj

 

[cutty]

I shoot a Robertson Purist #67 and it does well with "30 Beman Max 4 400 and 200 grns of point weight...or for an aluminum arrow it shoots 2115's and also 2117's...

I also shoot a Liberty Contender #60 and it loves 2018's...and will tolerate the Beman 400's with 200 grns...

 

[tpoof]

I have a number of longbows,,reflex deflex,,but my fav is a 60lb Jerry Hill Wildcat delux,,,ya hand shock soo bad you get headaches after 10 shots lol,,, but with that bow shootin is effortless and accurate.
I use 2016 aluminums with 125 gr tips,,draw 27",,,they bareshaft perfect for me!
I have a homemade spine tester and I use the spine of the 2016 to make my own wood arrows,,,long process but in a nutshell,,,cut blanks 3/8 square of fav wood,( i have some old fir planks salvaged that are so good in grain) i built a die out of 1/2' steel and drilled hole in it from 3/8" down to 5/16". take my shaft,chuck it in a drill and run it thru the first hole to knock the edges off,then on and on to smaller holes till I match the spine of the 2016 I've done this with numerous shafts,,,once I find a aluminum I like match it with wood, heavier woods like ash require smaller diameters.
Anyway thats how I do my shafts...
I try to keep it as handson and cheap as possible
its fun too!
Good luck!

 

[SlowBowInMO]

With a longbow often a "dead on" spine or even a little less will work well for me. By dead on I mean matching the spine poundage of the arrow to the weight of the bow.

For your bows, a 2018 spines at about 67#, a 2020 a bit more than that so they could be a good fit for you. A CE Terminator in 45-60 might be worth a look also. For a woodie I'd start experimenting right in the 65-70 range.

If you look at tpoofs post right before mine, he is shooting a 60# Jerry Hill and 2016's. The 2016 spines at 61#.

If your draw length is shorter than 28" you will need to go a little lighter, and if its longer a bit heavier.

I'm guessing the spine rating of your 300's is over 90 pounds or thereabouts.

 

[rottunpunk]

i use wooden ones with purple and black feathers.
id go with the above advice as ive no idea what strength youd need,sorry

 

[lonewolf05]

If your longbow is not center shot, then you want a spine thats equal to or a little less than the weight of your bow. the arrow has to curve around the arrow rest then straighten out again. ex. 60# bow try 55-60# or60-65#. By the way I shoot wood so I dont know about aluminium, or carbon. Good luck.

 

[sunaj]

OK Thanks for the info, don't know if I can get to a bowshop so I might have to buy and error, thanks for the tips sunaj

 

[Feral Donkey]

I have a number of longbows,,reflex deflex,,but my fav is a 60lb Jerry Hill Wildcat delux,,,ya hand shock soo bad you get headaches after 10 shots lol,,, but with that bow shootin is effortless and accurate.
I use 2016 aluminums with 125 gr tips,,draw 27",,,they bareshaft perfect for me!
I have a homemade spine tester and I use the spine of the 2016 to make my own wood arrows,,,long process but in a nutshell,,,cut blanks 3/8 square of fav wood,( i have some old fir planks salvaged that are so good in grain) i built a die out of 1/2' steel and drilled hole in it from 3/8" down to 5/16". take my shaft,chuck it in a drill and run it thru the first hole to knock the edges off,then on and on to smaller holes till I match the spine of the 2016 I've done this with numerous shafts,,,once I find a aluminum I like match it with wood, heavier woods like ash require smaller diameters.
Anyway thats how I do my shafts...
I try to keep it as handson and cheap as possible
its fun too!
Good luck!

Tpoof, What are your 2016s spining out at? I know what Easton says they are but I think they're testing a little differently than everyone else in the industry does.

 

[tpoof]

Hello Feral Donkey!
You know to tell the truth I'm really not sure what the spine deflection numbers are?The spine tester I've made is just so I can match various bends (deflections)it has no numbers on it and I just mark where the pointer says while I'm spining my shafts. I've got a 27 draw so I knew that it would be either a 1916, 2016 shaft would work. I started with a 2016 shaft cut to 291/2" and with bare shaft testing got a weak shaft profile ,,so I cut 1/4' off and reshoot,,kept doing that until I got a straight on shaft,,,ended to to be a 28 3/4' shaft that worked the best on the 2016 shaftwith a 125gr.tip,,the 1916 were just too limber and would have to be cut too short to work on this particular bow.
Once I found that I matched it with the woods and the tecnique I've described previously,,it works real well! I also do the same with my wifes Martin x200 40lber which takes 1816's cut to 28 1/2'. I've made some fir woodies for her and they shoot excellent as well,, Good enough for her to win the Canadian Nationals for 4 straight years,,,before her shoulder surgery
So, sorry for the long winded reply (and not really answering your question)lol. but that is the way i do it,, got the spine tester plans off of the Traditional Bowhunter mag way back when, pretty bushleague but works fine enough. Hope this helps a bit at least

a friend in archery
tpoof

 

[tpoof]

spine tester

Here is a pic of my homemade tester, crude but effective :thumbs_up
sorry sunaj for getting off topic :embara:

 

[SlowBowInMO]

That's a good looking spine tester there!

Mine is simply two nails in the wall, properly spaced and I measure the weight with a hand scale at the proper mark. It works too although much less glamorous.

 

[sunaj]

np the more pictures the better S

 

[selfboyer]

arrow

Sunaj like Tpoof I also shoot a Jerry Hill Wildcat in the 65# range. It likes to spit out 2216's very well. It also shoots 60-65# cedar arrow, 30 inch cut very well. Go with a little lighter spine for most longbows or add a lot of weight up front on those 300's and see how they shoot. Also Tpoof wasn't kidding about the hand shock on the Wildcat, it will knock the fillings out of your teeth if your not carefull. Glenn

 

[sunaj]

Found a new (well, old) bow shop in my area, bought some Beman Carbon Hunter 49-15s wow sizzling out of my longbow, these narrow shafts are pure p*, feels like my longbow shoots these arrows as fast as any of my recurves, and the penetration in my targets is kinda pissin' me off, passing completely thru my hay bale targets and forcing me outside in the creek searching for my arrows, while waking the neighborhood dogs up, soon I expect I will hear arrows shooting past me from my irate neighbors, while I comb the field for my arrows (you KNOW you aint giving up on a $12 an arrow carbon, they just too purdy)
sunaj