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Lumenok = Not for me...Going to try Nufletch Ignitor

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#1 ·
I had a decision to make between Lumenok and Firenock. it was between these two because of nock fit on my Xpedition Xcentric 7's stock string without reserving it for a better fit for the nockturnals, that I originally wanted to use. Ive always heard they are extremely tight and can or will crack after X amount of shots, especially with my stock string/center serving.

I installed and re-installed the Lumenoks 3 times on my Black Eagle Rampages, exactly how they say to do so. Squared ends, cleaned up and not one drop or piece or carbon residue left in the shaft. All I got was inconsistent results. My "consistent" nocks on arrows #1 and #2 stopped working by the time I got 1 other one to work properly. also, one broke. After that shot, I heard ping, ping, ping-ping-ping and it was the battery which came apart from the nock and the nock was on the ground as well as this battery. Initially, I thought I was going to be very happy with their design, and the nock fit to string was great, but in the end it was a no go for these and my arrows. They may work for you...not for me.

so now, I had my bow shop reserve the string so I can order nockturnals. That came out nice and is ready for the nockturnals if/when I purchase them. Instead, I ordered Nufletch Ignitors and am hoping (I think I will) to be happy with these. I really like the thought behind their design. Seems pretty simple yet effective. it also seems people are finding these to be much more consistent as far as lighting up goes, so I hope the same is true for me when I get them in. One reason I did not order these in the past was because I remember seeing a long outsert/bushing on the back end of the arrow. In searching today I found that it is no bigger than a regular insert for your broadheads/points and to top it off, the X sized ignitor lighted nocks only weight 18.5 grains finished weight.
 
#7 ·
Good to know, thanks!

I've tried a bunch of them and have settled on the Ignitors for about 3 seasons now. I really like that you can replace only the nock or only the lamp/battery module and that if you remove the lamp you've got yourself a practice nock. One word of warning, if you have a bow quiver with more than one Ignitor equipped arrow in the lineup, you will need to put a small piece of scotch tape around the battery unit before putting it in place or the nocks that are still in the quiver will make a little rattling noise when you release the arrow. I know that it's a drawback but I've tried a bunch of them and this is one that works reliably, has other attributes that I like and this is the least of the drawbacks I've found with the other brands. I also like that when you buy a pack you get three different size bushings that allows for most of the different diameter shafts all in one package. If their web site still doesn't list replacement knocks only, use the "Contact Us" tab and tell them you wish to buy replacement knocks. They'll help you out right away. I bought a couple dozen and they weren't expensive.
So they rattle in general (nock outs did too), when you walk with them in your quiver and/or take a shot? I dont keep my quiver on the bow, I hang mine. Thanks for the heads up!

FWIW, I've had a couple of the older [bought about 2 yrs ago] Nokturnals break on me....one cost me and animal- shot on a shot on a hog that went 10' in front of him.
Definitely trying to avoid that from happening, thanks for the heads up
 
#3 ·
I've tried a bunch of them and have settled on the Ignitors for about 3 seasons now. I really like that you can replace only the nock or only the lamp/battery module and that if you remove the lamp you've got yourself a practice nock. One word of warning, if you have a bow quiver with more than one Ignitor equipped arrow in the lineup, you will need to put a small piece of scotch tape around the battery unit before putting it in place or the nocks that are still in the quiver will make a little rattling noise when you release the arrow. I know that it's a drawback but I've tried a bunch of them and this is one that works reliably, has other attributes that I like and this is the least of the drawbacks I've found with the other brands. I also like that when you buy a pack you get three different size bushings that allows for most of the different diameter shafts all in one package. If their web site still doesn't list replacement knocks only, use the "Contact Us" tab and tell them you wish to buy replacement knocks. They'll help you out right away. I bought a couple dozen and they weren't expensive.
 
#9 ·
Ya know, its funny you say that and thanks for the reply. I do constantly hear that about firenock and do believe it. However, I have only seen 1 firenock in person. That one nock would not turn off no matter what...lol. That didnt sway my decision either. Im not knocking the product at all as I have no experience with them myself but Ive only seen one from another shooter and it would not turn off. Im not sure if it was incorrect installation or what. If I have to use firenock I will definitely do so and you are correct on the savings BUT...sometimes, especially for myself, its better to go through the trials and tribulations as I will learn from it. Always finding a positive out of anything I can.
 
#10 ·
If the battery in a Firenock gets low , sometimes it is harder to shut off. Also , the arrow must remain motionless for a few seconds befor u attempt to shut it off. Not sure what happened in that case as I obviously wasn't there. lol. I have used them for 5-6 years with good results.


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#11 ·
I dont want this to turn into a firenock thread because in no way shape or form am I making it this for good or for worse. I have no experience with them. It was last year and the shooter said it was a new nock. But from what I hear (in that case seeing) it is not the norm. Wasnt my arrow or yours so who knows...lol. I always hear great things about firenock but am really looking forward to trying these ignitiors!
 
#18 ·
Sure does sound like a good idea. The nockouts I shot last year had a rattle as well. I do shoot without a quiver on the bow, but wondering if its loud enough to hear while walking to the stand? Do you shoot the nock with the tape also or do you remove it? Wondering if its enough to prevent them from working properly or just the right amount to knock out the rattle and still function properly? Not a concern, just curious since you enlightened me with the awesome idea.


Grizz, I remember seeing you comment about them before on other threads...good to know and glad you like them.

As a matter of fact, Im getting ready to remove the lumenoks and install the ignitors in the next 20-30 minutes. They just came in the mail today.
 
#20 ·
Sure does sound like a good idea. The nockouts I shot last year had a rattle as well. I do shoot without a quiver on the bow, but wondering if its loud enough to hear while walking to the stand? Do you shoot the nock with the tape also or do you remove it? Wondering if its enough to prevent them from working properly or just the right amount to knock out the rattle and still function properly? Not a concern, just curious since you enlightened me with the awesome idea.
The tape is wrapped around the battery before insertion into the bushing. It simply fattens the diameter of the battery to eliminate wiggle room between the battery and the wall of the bushing. The nock is installed as normal. There is absolutely no concern for impact on the performance.It takes a minuscule length of scotch tape to achieve the desired result.
 
#19 ·
I have been shooting them the way they came,i have not put tape over the battery yet.But it's a good idea as they do rattle a wee bit.I like that they can fit all my numerous arrow sizes and all i do is pull nock out and battery and switch to the other diameter of arrow.I would tape or glue a flashlight to the back of my arrow before i purchased some other "lighted nocks"...:)
 
#21 ·
I installed the ignitors the other night. Brainless to install and LOVE the design concept. Im not going to give a full review because I have yet to shoot them and hunt with them. The tolerances are very tight and do not vary much. The fit to string is very similar to nocturnal so for me and my stock lightning strings, means I have to reserve the center serving. Not a big deal. I will be using these as practice nocks also because all you do is remove the light/battery. It weighs next to nothing so you will not have much variance between your lighted nocks and practice nocks. Every nock/bushing felt the same as I installed them. Same with the on off switching for lighting up and turning off. The lumenoks felt different. Some would be extremely tight and some, not so much. So thats a plus for the ignitors. Also...I am not sure if this changes between different sized nocks but I am shooting the x size only. So what i report is for the x sized nock only. The light/battery fits very snug in these with little to no play. I am going to shoot these later this evening so I will give a minor, not a full blown "havnt used these, wow they are awesome and I recommend them report"...lol. Below are some pics of the install. FYI, I HAD to get my babygirls minnie mouse truck in the pics!





 
#25 ·
I never tried firenock. For nock fit only and not reserving, those were my two choices, I chose lumenok over firenock. I have since reserved my center serving, so it then became a choice between nocturnal and ignitor. I believe dorges product may be great but have never used them myself, yet. I learn best from trial and error, not a money decision for me. Maybe I end up with them, maybe not ;) As for now..Im giving ignitor a "shot."
 
#27 ·
I found the clear nicks on the ignitors to be weak. I had a couple explode. This was in 2013, maybe the issue has been resolved.
 
#30 ·
I have them in my bloodlines and in x-weaves.But i will be shooting them from 462 -463 gr bloodlines with a chinadermic on the tip for hunting this fall,from a 65-66 lbs bow.I have it dialed in to 60 yards and couldnt be happier for the fall to get here....How do you like them?or do you want me to send you some flashlights and some tape for your arrows?
 
#33 ·
I was up at 445 am and went to shoot,just got back.I think i am going to build a 620 ish grain arrow before Oct 1st.Going to figure out what i will buy to build today,I just want new arrows,im an arrow hoarder.But,i fired 40 arrows this morning and the ignitors have still performed great.I am more impressed with them then i thought i would be.Might try some red ignitors for these arrows...Grizz
 
#34 ·
I am going with a dz cx piledrivers in 450(.300),100 gr brass inserts,100 gr broadhead,onestringer wrap,Ignitors and either 2" blazer or a 3" feather.I quickly calculated and this is going to be close,maybe +/- 7-10 gr depending on wrap length and which fletchings i go with.....Grizz
 
#38 ·
Update on the ignitors. Bow is served with .018 bcyxs and the fit to string is awesome

Dont mind the shot placement. I was shooting without re-aligning my peep just to get some shots in, almost blinded by the peep, lol. I took 10 shots with the lights. Each one lit up instantly, did not turn off after making contact with the target. All are the same brightness also. So far Im very happy. Now I took the lights/batteries out of the nocks and have practice nocks at almost the exact same weight. The batteries are tiny/light weight. I still habe to weigh them. I will try to remember to give another report after hunting with them. Easy install, no hassles, light up everytime. Come on deer season!