I have a 2004 Martin Prowler bow (50-60lb) with the Tru Arc cam system. The bottom cam (small lobe) has cracked after approximately 200 shots. Martin claims they have beefed up the design of this cam for 2005 and will retrofit the new design to my bow. Does anyone have enough experience with this "improved" tru arc cam to give me the confidence to go this route or would it be better to switch to another brand. Thank you for your help! Bowless in MN!
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Call Martin....
509-529-2554, ask for Brad Rega or Martin Lotz.....they will take care of it.
509-529-2554, ask for Brad Rega or Martin Lotz.....they will take care of it.
Unless you really don't like a two-cam design, I would go with Nitrous cams. I had Tru-arc's orginally that failed the same way yours did. Martin sent me Nitrous cams and strings free of charge, and I like them much better. I found them smoother and significantly faster (like 15fps faster).
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I belive they had quite a few Tru Arcs do what yours did, I know the shop I shoot for we ordered all of our 04 bows with the Tru Arc cams, we never had any break but we were very dissapointed with the cam, nock travel was horribable, Martin did however step up and replace all ouf our bows ordered with new limbs and dyna camswe just took all day to swap them out.
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The new tru arc cam is beefed up and redesigned at that area where it broke at. You should be happy with this new cam design. To check it out you can go to www.martinarchery.com and download the 3d view of the cam and you will see that it was redesigned in that area where the issues were.
The new tru arc cam is beefed up and redesigned at that area where it broke at. You should be happy with this new cam design. To check it out you can go to www.martinarchery.com and download the 3d view of the cam and you will see that it was redesigned in that area where the issues were.
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I dont shoot a martin but I would give them a second chance.
I am sure that every company has a problem now and then but as long as they step up to the plate and take care of the customer, I see no reason to switch.
rick
I am sure that every company has a problem now and then but as long as they step up to the plate and take care of the customer, I see no reason to switch.
rick
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Tru Arc...
Hello All,
We have defenitely beefed up the Tru Arc+ Cam...The hub that you speak of is significantly thicker than the previous Tru-Arc cam and is completely supported by the module in all positions. The new Tru-Arc+ cam is head and shoulders above the original....It is faster and much quieter, and it will not break!! As long as the bow has the correct string and cables installed, the cam will have perfect, flat and level nock travel.
Give us a call at 509-529-2554 and we can upgrade you at no charge...
Ask for Martin Lotz...He is one of our technical experts and will fix you up in a jiffy!!
PUG
Hello All,
We have defenitely beefed up the Tru Arc+ Cam...The hub that you speak of is significantly thicker than the previous Tru-Arc cam and is completely supported by the module in all positions. The new Tru-Arc+ cam is head and shoulders above the original....It is faster and much quieter, and it will not break!!
As long as the bow has the correct string and cables installed, the cam will have perfect, flat and level nock travel.Give us a call at 509-529-2554 and we can upgrade you at no charge...
Ask for Martin Lotz...He is one of our technical experts and will fix you up in a jiffy!!
PUG
No.. I don’t think you should go the route you described .. I don’t think you should allow Martin to fulfill there warrantee. I suggest you leave the cam in it’s current state and move on to something else. I suggest you keep your options to never using the bow again or selling it to some other unsuspecting individual.
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You could … (hey call me crazy) let them fulfill their warrantee work. See how you like the design and if no other problems arise and you like the new system keep the bow if not sell it…
I know it’s a tough choice. I can see why you needed to solicit the opinions of others
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You could … (hey call me crazy) let them fulfill their warrantee work. See how you like the design and if no other problems arise and you like the new system keep the bow if not sell it…
I know it’s a tough choice. I can see why you needed to solicit the opinions of others
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Well now I'm worried. I just bought a Cougar III with the original Tru Arc cams on it and now I hear about problems with the cams! You've got to be kidding me. Now do I just sit back and wait for it to break, or pray that it doesn't? Do I have any options from Martin, this is a brand new bow, with only a handful of arrows through it. I really don't feel like waiting for a bad cam design to break.
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Seriously guys, is this something I need to worry about, or is the Tru Arc cam breaking an isolated problem that I need not worry about. I just got this bow and I don't want to spend time setting it up and tuning it only to have the cam break. If there is a real problem with the design I don't see why I couldn't have my dealer send the bow back to Martin now to have it fitted with ones that aren't going to break.
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Well I called Martin tonight and I believe I talked to Martin. He admitted that a handful of bows with the Tru Arc cams had this occur, due to bearings being improperly installed but that there was no problem with the original Tru Arc cams. I asked him " If there was no problem with the 04 version why would you beef up the part that was cracking on the cams for 2005"? He said he didn't know anything about such a problem existing, and that they changed them for better performance. Further I had nothing to worry about, and that my 2004 Tru Arc cams would be fine. Well I'm still a little concerned. PUG, you seem to know more about this problem than he does, do you agree with his statements? Is there anything I need to be concerned with, or is everything fine with my 04 Tru Arc cams? Is it possible to upgrade now to the Tru Arc+ cams, if they are so much better I wouldn't mind switching now, even if it cost me more money.
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If there is any problem with the cam we will fix or replace it.
call 1-800-541-8902
call 1-800-541-8902
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There isn't a problem with my cams...YET! It's a brand new bow, fresh out of the box, not even set up yet and I don't want to go through the process of tuning a bow that's going to have the cam break after a few hundred shots. So my question is if there is a problem with the original Tru Arc cams, and obviously there is or Martin wouldn't have changed the design, why wasn't the Tru Arc cam recalled and fixed in the first place rather than sold to unsuspecting people who it could break on after a few hundred shots? This is a brand new bow and I already have lost confidence in it. After talking to Martin personally last night, it's clear they aren't going to put new "fixed" Tru Arcs on my bow. Rather it's the shoot it and pray it doesn't break road for me. This is my first Martin bow and I loved the way it shot when I bought it. IMO this is a problem that Martin could easily fix by changing out a bad design, But if denying there is a problem is how they're handling it I'm dissapointed. Not one person has been able to reassure me that I have nothing to worry about, and that's surprising.
Not knowing the magnitude of the potential ( if any) problem I really think people should calm down on there assessment of this problem. Many more limbs break every year from all manufacturers bows and this is common knowledge but yet nobody cries “recall” on these items.
Lot of the old Sims limb silencers used to fall off and bounce down the range. Nobody cried “recall “ on these items.
Well the list goes on and in every case I can think of the manufacturers honored there warrantees and the shooting went on. Every product has a few failures and in general most manufactures will not recall them unless a certain percentage ends up with the same problem or it’s an overwhelming potential safety hazard The fact that no such recall exist on this item I guess could be taken as a good sign. So far I have heard of 2 or 3 instances of this on a forum that has how many members?? I have personally seen more Mathews and PSE limbs break this year alone ….. Better start the recall on them to … Don’t you think??
As far as setting up a bow that MAY have a failure on the cam .. I guess many must not plan on the Limbs , Strings, Cables ect failing as well or nobody would take the time to set up a bow as it just might break….As far as the cam being redesigned I think many companies cams are redesigned every year… In part to improve performance and in part to improve design.. work out potential or existing problems. Like the Cam.5 from Hoyt couple of small changes in that cam while the basic performance has not changed… Must be a flaw.. Better start the recall!!
Lot of the old Sims limb silencers used to fall off and bounce down the range. Nobody cried “recall “ on these items.
Well the list goes on and in every case I can think of the manufacturers honored there warrantees and the shooting went on. Every product has a few failures and in general most manufactures will not recall them unless a certain percentage ends up with the same problem or it’s an overwhelming potential safety hazard The fact that no such recall exist on this item I guess could be taken as a good sign. So far I have heard of 2 or 3 instances of this on a forum that has how many members?? I have personally seen more Mathews and PSE limbs break this year alone ….. Better start the recall on them to … Don’t you think??
As far as setting up a bow that MAY have a failure on the cam .. I guess many must not plan on the Limbs , Strings, Cables ect failing as well or nobody would take the time to set up a bow as it just might break….As far as the cam being redesigned I think many companies cams are redesigned every year… In part to improve performance and in part to improve design.. work out potential or existing problems. Like the Cam.5 from Hoyt couple of small changes in that cam while the basic performance has not changed… Must be a flaw.. Better start the recall!!
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