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This is my first time tuning my cams and I have the bow shooting good through paper. I was reading about cam lean and noticed mine seems to have a good amount. This is my VXR at full draw shown. With Matthews are there other ways to adjust cam lean or do you only use the top hats? It is shooting great I just want to make sure the cam lean is not excessive or would cause any issues/if this is normal. I didn’t know if cable twists were used as well on a Matthews or just the top hats. It’s a VXR 31.5 and I just got new gas ghost strings on it so am going through it all. Thank you!
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Shooting GOOD thru paper is a start.
Fire a group of three fletched arrows and at least ONE bareshaft at 20 yards.

Take a photo.






If you can do this at 20 yards, ignore the cam lean.
If you do not get this result, then you have some work to do with the Top Hats.
Thank you! I appreciate it! So the only way to move cams are with top hats on a Matthews?
 

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To answer your question, yes, only way to work cams is with top hats. But ALL, the Mathews bows with that big bearing, on side of cam, gives floating yoke cable the look of leaning badly. But if you look at your cam, it’s actually not bad at all. I have a Triax. Trx38 and trx36, and all 3 look as yours is doing, but they will shoot a group of bareshafts shaft to shaft at 30 yards. But my TRX 36, I actually tuned better with a slight nock low, on that bow.
Thank you so much! Super helpful to know. This is my first Matthews and first time tuning on my own so I really appreciate it! Really enjoying the Matthews
 

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I am pretty happy with how I typed up that concept, I have typed it out hundreds of times so I am getting better at it. This simple approach can give you a very clean final setup for your bow, like I said you can leave your cams alone and end up with awesome arrow flight but to me anytime you ignore cam lean and just move the arrow rest as your method it is just a lazy choice.
Wow! That could be in a book! Thank you so much. I’ll check my bottom cam later today and let you know. Of the three you mention I did sync my cams to hit together and centered rest at 13/16. The cam lean is now the only thing I’m not sure of. I’ll check this today and follow up thank you again!!!

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Only thing with these bows and top hats, you can only do but so much. Each set of top hats, (3 sets), is a total of .175”. So you have a set that Is 1. .140” + .035”
2. .120” + .055”
3. .100” + .075”.
so with those sets, you can have wide on left side and thin on right, or vise versa. But they must stay as a set to equal a total of .175”. That limits you more do than with yokes, and or a bow that has shims of .010”, .015 and so on. When you can move a cam .010” and then a 1/2 twist in a yoke, and then move you cable rod a 1/32” , you can really micro tune cams. But with these top hats, a .035” is as small of a move as you can get. So you may have to touch rest over in one or the other direction more than you normally would want to. But, still, I haven’t seen one that you can’t tune down the pipe, or very very close to it.
This makes a lot of sense. Didn’t realize it wasn’t as fine with top hats but it sure is an easy system!
 
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