Seems arrogance and elitist attitudes are just the norm for archery shop owners and workers now. I've been doing my own work for decades but these guys just assume they automatically know more than you or that you know nothing. My suggestion to all archers just learn to do things yourself as these shops are not worth the hassle. The blowhards running the shops are not as unique as they think they are. Dime a dozen.
Mfjj. Is it just the standard for shops to be like that guy now?
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Unfortunately, I had to make an unscheduled stop at the local bow shop today. I managed to lose my 1.5 clarifier while switching out apertures. Wouldn't be a biggie, if I wasn't leaving for the TN TAC event today. They didn't have any in stock, but the bowsmith loaned me his personal clarifier straight from his target bow. The guys at KygunCo really went above and beyond.
Ill second KyGunCo, I dealt with them on the phone, to get some stuff to my Dad in TN. Good peeps for sure.
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Around here, North Ga, Elite and Bowtech stay in back order. PSE has its cult following, but it's smaller. Hoyt sells OK. Can't tell you anybody other than a big box that handles Bear.
Matthews, Elite, and Bowtech are extremely popular.
OH MY GOD I’ve been cuffed and stuffed by commander Shades of the grammar police.Wow, you feel really biggly about this! lol And to give your posts more validity, you should probably use the correct version of "your, you're".
What ever should I do
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Are you giving us a hint.....
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It is a serious crime. Best guess? Become a june bug.
Said this before I think MFJJs haircut is the product of losing a bet or a dare. Or he was emotionally inspired by Robert Deniro in the movie Taxi Driver.
That said I actually like his bow reviews much better than his haircut. He seems pretty straight forward about the speeds. And does not seem to favor any one company.
That said I actually like his bow reviews much better than his haircut. He seems pretty straight forward about the speeds. And does not seem to favor any one company.
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I was researching for a new rangefinder and came down to two that FMJJ did a review on, ultimately purchased from FMJJ Online store because he was $5 cheaper and I wanted to support the fact his video of the product was helpful in my research. His findings of his review was exactly what I was wanting to know. The package came very fast and the rangefinder was exactly what he said it was versus the other. (He sells both FYI)
I also called his shop about some arrow and spine after with a couple questions on these arrows I had never used before and without even knowing if I was going to purchase from him and with zero sales pitches he took the time to answer what I am sure every shop gets call after call about over and over. Gave me his opinion of the two options of arrow and spine said they do carry them but didn't insist I needed to buy from him. I could hear in background the shop sounded busy so I thanked him told him Id call later. Was like talking to a buddy not a salesman. In fact I never mentioned I had bought a rangefinder from his store already. He was just open to saying howdy and talking about arrows.
To make a cavate I also called my local shop that's very well known for celebs getting their gear there and promoting podcasters. Good shop but I stood there in a empty shop to make some purchases and the employees (Owners kids included) couldn't be bothered to stop eating their lunch at 2 PM to ask me if I needed any help until the person I knew was the owner walked by and I literally made a point I was there to purchase some stuff and had a couple questions. I did buy a few things but that was out of my convivence. Cost them a couple hundred in sales considering I drove out of my way to go to said shop by a hour.
Perception at a distance i.e. through videos or any long distance interaction is foolish at best. Next time FMJJ might be a complete ass and the "special" bowshop and their employee who has been raved on how great they are might not have their head up their butt. Its easy to arm chair who is best or worst with no or very little interaction but that doesn't make it gospel.
I also called his shop about some arrow and spine after with a couple questions on these arrows I had never used before and without even knowing if I was going to purchase from him and with zero sales pitches he took the time to answer what I am sure every shop gets call after call about over and over. Gave me his opinion of the two options of arrow and spine said they do carry them but didn't insist I needed to buy from him. I could hear in background the shop sounded busy so I thanked him told him Id call later. Was like talking to a buddy not a salesman. In fact I never mentioned I had bought a rangefinder from his store already. He was just open to saying howdy and talking about arrows.
To make a cavate I also called my local shop that's very well known for celebs getting their gear there and promoting podcasters. Good shop but I stood there in a empty shop to make some purchases and the employees (Owners kids included) couldn't be bothered to stop eating their lunch at 2 PM to ask me if I needed any help until the person I knew was the owner walked by and I literally made a point I was there to purchase some stuff and had a couple questions. I did buy a few things but that was out of my convivence. Cost them a couple hundred in sales considering I drove out of my way to go to said shop by a hour.
Perception at a distance i.e. through videos or any long distance interaction is foolish at best. Next time FMJJ might be a complete ass and the "special" bowshop and their employee who has been raved on how great they are might not have their head up their butt. Its easy to arm chair who is best or worst with no or very little interaction but that doesn't make it gospel.
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I deal mainly with two shops. One owner is nice and helpful, but everything he orders takes forever to come in. The owner of the other shop has to be bipolar. Half the time I go there I am "brother" and owner acts like we long lost best friends. Half time walk in and he acts like he is mad I showed up. I still deal with him because he can get anything and everything, including bows no one else can get, very quickly. I always buy stuff at both shops when I go in. If I go in and don't but something, it's because they were out of it or because I went in to order something.
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Oh he seems like a good kid, kid's in my neck of the woods have more confidence than he does, and talk more smack
They will steal the rims and tires of your truck and stop by the next day asking if you want to buy a set.
Never been to his shop and not sure how he treats customers, I know a shop out by me that has young immature punk's working at the place .
That's not from just me, I know customer's that have moved elsewhere.
Most places I go are pretty good though.
They will steal the rims and tires of your truck and stop by the next day asking if you want to buy a set.
Never been to his shop and not sure how he treats customers, I know a shop out by me that has young immature punk's working at the place .
That's not from just me, I know customer's that have moved elsewhere.
Most places I go are pretty good though.
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Josh Jones aka MFJJ is in his 40s with a lifetime of shop experience. His videos provide as much useful information on YouTube as John Dudley, and it's all free. People that go online blasting guys like this look silly and kind of ignorant.
If archery doesn't have an inclusive mindset and folks that introduce new people to the sport, and folks to help educate people of all levels so they are more successful at the sport, it will simply not exist at some point.
Many shops have guys that either have nowhere near the experience of folks like this, or they mail it in because they know that many customers don't know any better so it's not worth going the extra mile.
It helps the sport, it's free educational information that is easily accessible, and they are either jealous of their success or mad that people can now learn in 1 year of watching videos online what it use to take decades from word of mouth and shops.
If archery doesn't have an inclusive mindset and folks that introduce new people to the sport, and folks to help educate people of all levels so they are more successful at the sport, it will simply not exist at some point.
Many shops have guys that either have nowhere near the experience of folks like this, or they mail it in because they know that many customers don't know any better so it's not worth going the extra mile.
It helps the sport, it's free educational information that is easily accessible, and they are either jealous of their success or mad that people can now learn in 1 year of watching videos online what it use to take decades from word of mouth and shops.
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I thought maybe early 30s, dang mohawk making him look younger.
He puts out some good videos but he better buy a new Chrono or get better lighting.
He definitely sales a bunch of stuff between ebay and his shop, I have bought 3 bow's over the years and all have showed up perfect.
He did reject a sale on a sight I got a good deal on, one Time after winning it on ebay.
Next day he sent a message saying ebay listed it for the wrong amount of days.
I think it was more of it sale n for $50 bucks cheaper than the norm during the middle of summer.
He seems to be doing good for himself.
Nothing against him as I have never met him.
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I don’t have a problem with mfjj he has been doing work on bows way longer then me. I enjoy most of his stuff and don’t care if he likes light arrows like most on here I use what works best for me and 550-650 has been great for me. If he says something about a bow as far as working on it and I think it’s wrong or whatever I just research it for myself and see what others are doing then check it for myself. Usually I find he is mostly right and that others do the same thing just in a different way. Many ways to skin the same cat…
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Don’t know where you are seeing the arrogance and elitism in the videos. Guess that’s just your take from a 10-20 minute clip from somebody you don’t know? Then, just lump that into all the other shop owners. Sounds like maybe the your the problem.
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I have no idea about the videos, but I do know plenty of know it alls work on sporting goods sales.
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I hear ya. This thread did get to 16 pages. Wonder how many views that translated to on his channel.
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For the record, I kind of like his videos.
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Nice fella with confidence spends hours upon hours filming and editing videos with the purpose of sharing knowledge with the common fella. For free i might add! What a despicable person.
Against my will he forced me to buy all the necessary bow shop equipment on his website. Annoyingly, he had the best prices. He even had the audacity to quickly return a faulty arrow saw!
Now I spend endless of hours in my shop working on my bows and super unhappy that I'm struggling to find something else to complain about!
Against my will he forced me to buy all the necessary bow shop equipment on his website. Annoyingly, he had the best prices. He even had the audacity to quickly return a faulty arrow saw!
Now I spend endless of hours in my shop working on my bows and super unhappy that I'm struggling to find something else to complain about!
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