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I know there has been alot of discussion before on the boards about if Mountain Lions are in KS and MO. I was reading the Kansas City Star at work today and came accross an article about this and looked it up this evening when I got home. Here is the link and the text:

http://www.kansas.com/news/story/352601.html


Mountain lion killed in Kansas
BY MICHAEL PEARCE
The Wichita Eagle
Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks game warden Tracy Galvin displays the pelt of a mountain lion that was killed in Barber County last November. Galvin has been investigating the rumor that a mountain lion had been killed in Kansas for the past several weeks. This is probably the first confirmed wild mountain lion in Kansas in over 100 years. Charges are pending against the individual who killed the lion.
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Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks game warden Tracy Galvin displays the pelt of a mountain lion that was killed in Barber County last November. Galvin has been investigating the rumor that a mountain lion had been killed in Kansas for the past several weeks. This is probably the first confirmed wild mountain lion in Kansas in over 100 years. Charges are pending against the individual who killed the lion.

MEDICINE LODGE - The long-standing debate about the presence of wild mountain lions in Kansas appears to be over.

For the first time in more than 100 years, state wildlife officials think they have confirmation of such an animal.

Tracy Galvin, a state Department of Wildlife and Parks game warden, took possession Monday of a mountain lion pelt shot west of Medicine Lodge in November.

A Barber County resident said he shot the catwhile cutting wood on his property.

Galvin said the man saw the mountain lion nearby, walked to his truck, grabbed a rifle and shot it.

Charges are pending since it's illegal to shoot a mountain lion in Kansas "unless it's a threat to life or property," Galvin said.

Galvin started investigating local rumors of the cat killing about three weeks ago.

The landowner admitted to the shooting and arranged to have the pelt returned from a Texas taxidermist, Galvin said.

He told Galvin he had previously seen big cats in the area.

Matt Peek, a furbearer biologist for Wildlife and Parks, described the event as substantial.

While it's believed the cat was wild, DNA testing will be done to see if it came from wild or domestic stock.

Many reports

Biologists say there's no need for Kansans to fear for their safety. The cats are known to be reclusive and contact with humans is rare.

Reports of big cats in Kansas have been coming since the last one was killed in the western part of the state in 1904.

While reported sightings have numbered in the thousands, Peek said proof has been nonexistent.

He and a number of biologists have followed leads but haven't found such solid evidence as tracks, droppings, a carcass or hair.

For about 15 years, Bob Wilson of Garden City has scoured the western half of Kansas placing infrared cameras in areas where big cats have been reported, using road-kill deer for bait.

He said after "countless" camera placements, "I got a number of very interesting bobcat shots, tons of coyotes and deer, but as for mountain lions... zero."

Kansas has come close a few times, like trail camera pictures of out-of-focus tan animals and piles of feces originally identified as mountain lion, only to have the lab testing come into question.

Last summer, an Audubon of Kansas Web site posted what it claimed was proof, though trained biologists who looked at the fuzzy photos and plaster casts of tracks said neither were of a lion.

Several mountain lions captured or killed proved to be released or escaped captive animals.

All around us

Neighboring states have plenty of proof of wild lions. Peek said there's a healthy population in a rugged part of southeast Colorado within 80 miles of the Kansas border.

Studies have shown that male mountain lions, like the one killed in Barber County, routinely range that far to establish a territory.

Nebraska has about 50 confirmations, with most coming since 2004.

Their cats have been traced to a growing population in South Dakota's Black Hills.

Missouri has about 10 confirmations, including a road kill within a few miles of Kansas.

Among others, in 2004 Oklahoma authorities found a lion hit by a train about 40 miles south of the Kansas state line. It was wearing a tracking collar from South Dakota.

"We've never said we didn't have any because of the likelihood a few have been through the state," Peek said. "This is just the first one that happened to get killed that we're aware of so we can verify it."

Had the shooter known the law, Kansas might still be without a confirmation.

"When I told him it was against the law to shoot one, his eyes really bugged out," Galvin said. "I really don't think he knew it was illegal."

Because he's been "super-cooperative," Galvin said, he doesn't plan to press felony charges of taking an illegally killed animal across state lines.

Penalties for conviction of shooting a protected species and possessing a protected species each carry fines up to $500 and up to one year in jail.

The Barber County kill also doesn't mean there's a thriving population.

Mark Dowling, along with Wilson, founded the Cougar Network in 2002 to study mountain lions in nontraditional areas.

"When you are in mountain lion country you're lucky to see one or two in your life, but you can find lion tracks and signs everywhere. It's not hard," he said. "If Kansas had a population, (verifiable) signs and tracks should be easy to find. But they're not."

Reach Michael Pearce at 316-268-6382 or [email protected].





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Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks game warden Tracy Galvin displays the pelt of a mountain lion that was killed in Barber County last November. Galvin has been investigating the rumor that a mountain lion had been killed in Kansas for the past several weeks. This is probably the first confirmed wild mountain lion in Kansas in over 100 years. Charges are pending against the individual who killed the lion.
 

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I would not be surprised ,if there are many more lions in KS. They can thrive as long as they have cover and deer... lots of deer. :wink:
 

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I have heard some stories of mt. lions around where I live(EC Kansas). One of my friends is pretty positive he found some tracks in his hunting area. I'm just waiting for some one in my area to get a picture of one on a trail camera.
 

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I would not be surprised ,if there are many more lions in KS. They can thrive as long as they have cover and deer... lots of deer. :wink:
When I was in the AF and work with Guard and Reserve guys and girls who were farming/Ranching families they would tell me that there have been stories of Cats running thru their property.
 

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Yeah in Michigan until a DNR officer sees one in person they doubt they exist in our state. Seems more and more states are seeing them.
 

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NOT YET confirmed...

There could be a lot more to this story...I don't think you can say it is confirmed until all the testing it done. But, this is the closest to proof we've had here yet. Many have been reporting sightings and prints for years here.


http://www.cjonline.com/stories/032708/kan_262182417.shtml
 

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I don't like the fact of them EATING THE DEER:eek::angry1: I am sure we have some down here in the Ozark mnts. around the lakes, If I see one than I would probably have to give them the treatment also:uzi::uzi::uzi:
 

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A guy I work with has had cattle attacked by a large cat. He has pictures of the cattle and footprints and also called the state. His farm is just west of Topeka. You should see the pictures of the cow that got tore up. It survived, but it was tore up.

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Yeah in Michigan until a DNR officer sees one in person they doubt they exist in our state. Seems more and more states are seeing them.
I think the problem is minus confirmation by someone "qualified", look at what you see out there. The DNR requires a certain level of certainty before they'll say a cougar is present, I know many think it's unreasonable how much evidence they "want" but then again, look how many folks talk about killing "copperheads" and show a dead water snake, how many folks end up shooting collies or horses they mistook for "deer", etc. and you can see where they want something more concrete.

Additionally, someone seeing one cat even if they're right means they saw one cat--could be someone's escaped "game farm pet" or a single case, which is not exactly the same as saying the state has wild cougars--years ago they found a hippo (yes, a hippo) in an area spring pond, because it escaped a game farm--it certainly doesn't mean WI has hippos.....

As for MI, they just confirmed a cougar finally in Rock County, WI (bottom of the state), I'm sure there's some in MI as well. As for confirming, the devil is in the details......
 

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Give you a up on Ks. fish and game when I was in grade school they said Ks. had no poisonous snakes either that was in the early 70s when Fish and game come to our school and all classes meet and they did a show and presentation. With in the next week kids where bringing in copper heads/ rattle snakes and the reports got back to them and they liked to fliped. Had plenty of proof. I lived in Ks. for 35 yrs. and seen 2 my self. Was not a bobcat with a long tail it was a big kitty. My sisters husband Dewayes brother inlaw has pictures of one on his farm.
 

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It's obviously a juvenile cat by the spotting on the coat. Still no evidence of a breeding population. Just cats looking for a home in places where no decent habitat exists.
 

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They are there. My friend who I hunt with in Kansas does a lot of trapping there. Last year while doing some snare trapping he actually caught a 90# mountain lion in one of his snares. It had went crazy in the snare and eventually broke its neck. No second hand accounts I actually saw this one with my own eyes. Some other reliable residents there claim to have seen another one this year. This is in northern Kansas.
 

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They are there. My friend who I hunt with in Kansas does a lot of trapping there. Last year while doing some snare trapping he actually caught a 90# mountain lion in one of his snares. It had went crazy in the snare and eventually broke its neck. No second hand accounts I actually saw this one with my own eyes. Some other reliable residents there claim to have seen another one this year. This is in northern Kansas.
Why wouldn't he go to the KDWP about it? It's an incidental catch in a snare, no possible way he could get in trouble for catching a lion. People want this stuff confirmed and then cry when nobody believes them.
 

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They started being seen in more abundance here in ND over the last few years. We now have a season on them and they are legal to hunt. The western part of the state is where most are being taken and seen. However we have had a few reports on the east side of the state just over this last year. My dad and I actually kicked a young one, maybe a year or so old, out of a catail slough this past deer season. Didnt have shot at him but Im positive it was a cat. And this is the far east part of the state. Its pretty cool. It makes walking out from your stand a little more interesting! Never know whose watchin!
 

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Why wouldn't he go to the KDWP about it? It's an incidental catch in a snare, no possible way he could get in trouble for catching a lion. People want this stuff confirmed and then cry when nobody believes them.
He is one of the old school farmer type old guys. He is not what you would really call a hunter. His way of hunting is trapping. He don't get into the big game hunting. He really couldn't care less about what the kdpw wants or thinks. I don't always agree with his way of thinking but you don't bite the hand that feeds you. He lets me hunt on his land of which is a tremendous amount that no one else gets to hunt on and it is VERY good. He does not care one bit if it was confirmed or not
 

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I seen one 2 years ago in Riley county. I seen tracks the day before and showed my buddy,the next day out to our stands 3/4 mile away we seen something walking our way in a distance.We stopped and there it was. Mountian lion. It worked its way closer to us and finally walked by us at 60 yards outta sight in a ditch. No one believed us ,but oh well. Im ok with that.
 
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