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JP,

A wall tent is a true investment. Done right, it's as cozy as your house. I've spent many nights here at home in Wyoming and Montana in a wall tent while sheep hunting, elk hunting, deer hunting, etc... The absolute best tents, customer service, and advice out there comes from Montana Canvas in Belgrade, MT in my experience. Everything they do screams quality, and if you have issues down the road (which I would bet against), those guys back up everything they do and make you feel warm and fuzzy about it when all is said and done. A great company with a great product line.

 

I'd second the Montana Canvas. Bought one from Cabelas that we took to a bunch of Nascar races, probably 100 in total...used it for the base tent for cooking, eating, etc. Awesome...never used it in the wild, but it went through a lot of torture...heat, rain, hail, humidity, etc.

 

Looking for something that will last a lifetime if cared for properly. Will check out Montana for sure. Any experience with Davis?

 

I have a Montana from Cabelas. Great tents. I no longer need it as I hunt now out of my camper so it is available for a good deal. Pm me if you are interested. If I recall,it is a 14x17. It comes with frame and stove w/water heater tank. Stove needs new pipe but everything else is in good shape.
QUOTE=JParcher;1070175565]Looking for thoughts on which canvas wall tent to buy for backcountry pack trips. I alternate b/t packing in with horses and setting up at camp sites accessible by road.

Which brand, what size, options I should consider, which poll design, flute diameter, etc? Are there deals to be found on AT or is there a good time to catch "specials" like at Davis Tents? Any and all opinions welcomed.

Thanks,

JP[/QUOTE]

 

I have a Montana from Cabelas. Great tents. I no longer need it as I hunt now out of my camper so it is available for a good deal. Pm me if you are interested. If I recall,it is a 14x17. It comes with frame and stove w/water heater tank. Stove needs new pipe but everything else is in good shape.
QUOTE=JParcher;1070175565]Looking for thoughts on which canvas wall tent to buy for backcountry pack trips. I alternate b/t packing in with horses and setting up at camp sites accessible by road.

Which brand, what size, options I should consider, which poll design, flute diameter, etc? Are there deals to be found on AT or is there a good time to catch "specials" like at Davis Tents? Any and all opinions welcomed.

Thanks,

JP

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U better buy that.

 

I don't wanna rain on anybody's parade but Montana is not known as the best ..
Do a little homework and you'll see

Kyle

 

What's ur brand of choice?

 

I got an 8 man Kodiak tent and am very happy with it. There's no stove outlet in the roof, but I use a radiant heater hooked to a 20 lb propane tank and it warms the tent up nicely.

 

Plenty of good ones- Davis, Montana and many others- quality canvas is key. I would go small wall tent over the Davis Herder design, unless you really want easy setup for one guy. I have an internal Alu frame with no center pole for my wall tent which is much better than the conduit center pole designs but you don't want to be packing a frame- just cut lodgepoles when you get there.

Packing in, you don't need to go crazy on size- a 10x12 will work for a couple of guys. We have slept 5 in a 12x16 with cooking and everything. The cheap folding sheetmetal stoves are great for pack ins. I have a cylinder stove for base camp and its much better than folding but heavy/bulky.

 

All I plan to do is sleep 3-4 hunters at most and be able to cook out of the rain. Will spend the other time chasing elk. We will be packing in several miles to the NF, so it may be Mountain House foods for the most part but a fly coming off the tent would be nice. Davis' traditional poles appear the way to go if you are packing in, unless you cut poles like Beendare mentioned. Cutting by hand is a lot of work which will take away from hunting time and a chainsaw in elk country seems like a mistake. Thoughts?

JP

 

3-4 needs bigger than 10'x12'....


3-4 guys will need a min of 12x14 or 12x16. My Alu pole set for my 12x16 isn't heavy- about40#- but its bulky- they store in a bag about 5' x 20"dia. Cutting the lodgepoles is the way to go- small chainsaw is the ticket then you can cut firewood too.

This is the pole layout we use, makes a solid frame. i've seen where guys brought in a big roll of reinforced plastic and stretched it over a huge frame like this....

 

I got a Selkirk Spike Tent. It's a good compromise between a full blown wall tent and the springbar/kodiak style tents. With two people it sets up in 20-30 minutes. I have my 14x14 divided and strapped to two backpack frames. So, two people could pack it in - poles and all without too much trouble. I chose it because I wanted the heavy canvas of the wall tent and the ability to have a stove in it, but I didn't want the cumbersome full frame of a wall tent.

 

Who's carrying it in? How much protection do you need. It's just a tent and anyone can make one. These high tec tents are for people who can't come up with a shelter to save their lives, I'd call them suckers with way too much money.

Heavy duty painters drop clothes make great cover. Grab a few small tree's and your good to go hunt.

I'm a builder who must follow a billion regulations, a tent, a guy doesn't even have to man up to make. Go to any reenactment and you'll see just how simple they can be to make a nice shelter. TeePee's are great and easy to transport.

 

2 pack horses will carry the tent and stove...the rest will come in on our backs.

 

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Meant to add a comment about the canvas....take a dress shirt from Walmart and one from Nordstroms and see which fabric looks better over the long haul- big price difference but a huge difference in quality too- the Nord shirt kills the WM shirt over the long haul.

The canvas in these tents is much the same- companies using a name brand quality canvas fabric hold up better.

 

What's the price diff bt Davis and Cylinder?

 

Cylinder is a little more money.. This is cylinder stove out of UTAH..
But based on my research the cylinder is a little better..
#1 - stitching. Double rolled vs Zipper stitch .. Cylinder uses a double rolled set-up..
#2 - Cylinder uses a neoprene gasket on the stove jack.. Davis uses a fiberglass type.. (last I checked)
#3 - Cylinder come standard with 2 doors

Either way you can't go wrong with DAVIS. either..
IMO - Davis has better customer service.. But I think cylinder has the better quality..


BTW - I chose the cylinder tent over the canadian made Deluxe tent..
I did a stupid amount of research

Kyle

 

For ventilation purposes...what is required? Screen front door with one screen window in the back or are 3 windows really needed in addition to the main door?

 

For this IMO you need a door on both ends..
That is where the most cross breeze is gonna happen..
These come standard on cylinder.. Just gotta add the screens..

BTW - cylinder will work with you some on price..

Kyle

 

if you look at the shape of a teepee it fits in with the shapes of the environment They can also be totally put together before the trip, just stand and spread them. They are natural ventilators, smoke goes right out the top and very wind resistant.

They also nave a simple door system and no stove required but can be used if you want to haul one.

Break a tent pole and your not doing well. Break a teepee pole and so what.

When in Rome...the Native Americans weren't stupid when it came to setting up base camps on this continent.

There's an old N.A. joke that makes fun of the white mans ways, shelters apply. z

White man build big fire, sit way back. Indian build small fire sit up close.

 

What manufacturer makes your favorite teepee?

 

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I own a 12x16 Davis with their stove and 2 of the Big Boy cots. I love everything about the quality and features. I did a lot of research before I decided to go with Davis. You won't be disappointed.

 

Davis is the plan...wish I could find a deal on Craigslist but hard to come by. Worth buying a new one regardless I imagine. Nothing like elk camp in a wall tent.