I dont know about everyone elese but I miss my old Hoyt Vantage Pro with Medallion limbs and Pro wheels. This was back in the early 80s and I dont think Ive shot anything more accurate since. Things like feedback and rollover are frogoten terms today. Ive had a total of 4 Mathews Apexs and that is about as close as I can get. I once shot 7 300s 60xs in a row with that bow........................