theres a brute 2011 package on classifieds here for 250$. so that beats it imo.Just bought a Quest Smoke on Ebay yesterday for $300 shipped! Going to have it along side my Quest Torrent. I don't think you can get a better new bow at that price anywhere! Do yourself a favor and at least glance at Quest and read a few reviews. Of course it is all personal preference in the end.