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Ever since i got this bow i have had horrible success tuning it. Everything i do just seems to give me troubles. Im not the most experienced bow tuner, but it just seems like somethings wrong. Well i tried sliding a nickle under the J-hooks on the cams, and on the bottom cam, the nickle fit easily under the hook with a little room to spare. On the top cam, the nickle would not slide under. Now ive tried reading all kinds of binary cam tuning articles and what not, but i just have a hard time making sense of most of it. SO, my simple question is, what does this mean, and what do i need to do to fix it? Thanks
 

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Twist the cables the cable that attaches to the cam with the tighter j hook take a twist out of it and check it or vise versa give a twist or take a twist away is what I use to do..
 

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Measure your axle to axle, brace height, draw lenght, and draw weight. If all of these are good then you just need to time the cams. This is easy to do with a draw board at full draw. If your measurements are off then you should start from scratch. Remove the string and cables and measure each one to make sure they are the correct lenght when you install them, and this will bring the bow very close to spec.
 

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measure your axle to axle, brace height, draw lenght, and draw weight. If all of these are good then you just need to time the cams. This is easy to do with a draw board at full draw. If your measurements are off then you should start from scratch. Remove the string and cables and measure each one to make sure they are the correct lenght when you install them, and this will bring the bow very close to spec.
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I am glad I read this because I got a very simular question I already timmed my cams they are perfect I was wondering if I should put equal twist in each cable or take them out I am trying to get more speed. This is on a Elite GTO but same idea cam system. To your question sounds like you would have to twist the cable on the top cam.
 

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Measure your axle to axle, brace height, draw lenght, and draw weight. If all of these are good then you just need to time the cams. This is easy to do with a draw board at full draw. If your measurements are off then you should start from scratch. Remove the string and cables and measure each one to make sure they are the correct lenght when you install them, and this will bring the bow very close to spec.
ATA is dead on. Brace height is only off by a little under 1/8". Draw length is on. And the bow only maxes out at 67 lbs. Its a 70 lb. bow....
 

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All you have to do is experiment. The gap should be EXACTLY the width of a nickel; there shouldn't be any play in there to speak of. Just start pulling on the cables and see what it does to the cam, then go from there.
 

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You have to get the space equal between the Jhooks or modules. After acheving that you will want to put equal twist in both cables to keep the cams timed that will increase the weight but reduce the ATA so then you might have to take some twist out if the string.
 

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You have to get the space equal between the Jhooks or modules. After acheving that you will want to put equal twist in both cables to keep the cams timed that will increase the weight but reduce the ATA so then you might have to take some twist out if the string.
Once the gaps are the correct width (in this case, the width of a nickel), if he twists the cables to get the poundage up and takes some twists out of the string, the gaps between the J hooks and limbs will change again.
 

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Ok guys the gaps between the hooks are not changing at all. Ive added 4 total twists to the top cable, and taken out a total of 4 from the bottom cable. Not too sure whats goin on here??
 

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Ok guys the gaps between the hooks are not changing at all. Ive added 4 total twists to the top cable, and taken out a total of 4 from the bottom cable. Not too sure whats goin on here??
If you pull on a cable, it IS going to rotate the cam a certain way. I should have Chugga post a video on Youtube about how to tune the "Guardies" and "Commies"...
 
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