[Tugman]

OK guys here's the deal. New bow, arrows etc., different setup from my last bow. I shot 3 blade rages with my other bow with 0 issues/complaints. However, I decided to go in a different direction. I started out 19 years ago with fixed BH's and 4 years ago I switched to, and have been a fan of, mechanicals. My personal preference has been 3 blade heads (wound size and blood trails) but in researching a new BH to change to, I came to settle on the G5 T3 and the T.T. Ulmer edge. Wow, a 2 blade BH. So to be fair to myself, I started researching 2 blades. Lo and behold there's this FIXED blade head called the Anarchy that REALLY strikes my fancy. I KNOW lots of game (and men) have been killed with 2 blade heads of stone and metal for many thousands of years. There are no wrong answers here, I would just like to hear what your personal experiences have been with 2 blade heads.

Thanks for your input

 

[Gideon007]

The Anarchy heads are wicked. Awesome design and scary sharp

 

[SierraMtns]

I shot Magnus 2 blades for the last two years and switched to a Razor Hawk this year. The Razor Hawks are easy to sharpen and tough as nails. The other cool thing is that you change weight by changing the blades. So you can get 1 package and by extra blades to see how they fly with more or less weight. Check them out.

http://www.redfeatherarchery.com/products

 

[Tugman]

I shot Magnus 2 blades for the last two years and switched to a Razor Hawk this year. The Razor Hawks are easy to sharpen and tough as nails. The other cool thing is that you change weight by changing the blades. So you can get 1 package and by extra blades to see how they fly with more or less weight. Check them out.

http://www.redfeatherarchery.com/products

Interesting. I'll have to check those out.

 

[Tugman]

I know all about single bevel sharpness. I have a Kershaw pocket knife that is single bevel and just barely have to touch it up to make INCREDIBLY sharp! When I move the knife toward my arm, a patch of hair JUMPS off and runs to the trash can!

 

[Anachro12]

Trying these strickland helix single bevels this year. These are the 125s. Haven't shot them yet, bow is getting the Tony 219er treatment first.

Used sandpaper over a leather strop to get a nice edge on them.

 

[Tugman]

These are some intriguing comparisons so far. Please keep them coming.

 

[salmon killer]

I have been using 2 blade broadheads for close to 40 years I used bear razors and zwickes. A trad bowhunter showed me some bears that he filled sharp just one side with a file they were crazy sharp and so easy to resharpin so I seen the damage he got on a big cow elk.The new 2 blades are great and with the power of a modern compound they take penetration to a new level.Why do the buffalo bow hunters use them because they work.So imagine how effective they would be on deer elk,bear.Give Anarchy broad heads a them try.

 

[TimmyZ7]

I always preferred 3 blade mechanicals or 4 blade fixed heads until I shot Rage. I personally think a 2 blade head that is large in diameter is beneficial in compromising cut diameter and penetration. However, smaller diameter 2 blade heads run the risk of hide covering the hole and not allowing lots of blood to hit the ground. This is also why many manufacturers have produced bleeder blades as an upgrade to their previous 2 blade models. Having a hole that has at least one low cut makes the probability of blood hitting the ground higher as well as an even slice in the hide also making it harder for hide to cover the wound. The single bevel is the exception in that is cuts an "S" or "L" shape through hide and the length of the wound channel but their success depends a lot on their sharpness.

That said, the Anarchy 1.5" is in my quiver this season along with my mechs and four blade Grizz tricks. They are impressively sharp out of the package and the single bevel should make them very effective against bone. If you have shot mechs for a while be sure that your bow is broadhead tuned and they should be killer. Good luck to you.

 

[salmon killer]

If you put a two blade in the lungs of what what ever critter of your choice there will be bood and lots of it.marginal hits will have less blood I don't care how many blades it has If cut dia gets to big with less penetration like with the mech heads you get just a nasty gash with out hitting vitals.There is no free lunch in bow hunting you have to have good shoot placement to make any broadhead work.

 

[TimmyZ7]

If you put a two blade in the lungs of what what ever critter of your choice there will be bood and lots of it.marginal hits will have less blood I don't care how many blades it has If cut dia gets to big with less penetration like with the mech heads you get just a nasty gash with out hitting vitals.There is no free lunch in bow hunting you have to have good shoot placement to make any broadhead work.

Bull chit! People always preach shot placement as if we live in a perfect world. I prefer equipment capable of busting bone and maintaining their integrity to increase my lethal shot opportunities from broadside to quartering shots and possibly some that may be considered taboo. If it was simply broadside shots all the time, without animals ducking, turning or wind/torquing, then we would simply shoot sharpened field tips for superb accuracy. Blood has to hit the ground for the purpose of recovering the shot animal. I also prefer larger diameters to increase trauma and reduce the tracking distance. Anything I have shot 1.5" or greater has typically dropped game within 40yds.

Rage chisel xtreme entry, vitals, exit

Like I said I shoot both and I think the Anarchy's will prove to be one bad arse head

 

[Tugman]

Salmon killer and timmyZ7, those are well explained points and good examples of why I started this thread. One of my concerns has been the "hide covering the hole" thing and I had not thought about the single bevel geometry changing that part of the game. As far as the potential for a single bevel blade to be sharp, well I have been carrying a single bevel Kershaw pocket knife for about 16 years that I just barely have to touch up and it is insanely sharp. All I have to do is move the knife in the direction of my forearm and a patch of hair will jump off and head for a trash can! On the subject of shot placement, I may be overly anal about that. An animal feels pain very much the way I do so it's a killing shot attempt or no shot attempt. I don't hunt so I can say I shot at such and such a (name your quarry) and I hit it but... I hunt to have the satisfaction of quickly and cleanly dispatching my intended target. I let the biggest buck I have had in bow range (about P&Y min.) walk because even though at 30 yds it was WELL within my comfort range, I didn't get an acceptable shot angle. And that is when I was shooting 3 blade Muzzy's. Thank you both for your views.

 

[salmon killer]

Bull chit! People always preach shot placement as if we live in a perfect world. I prefer equipment capable of busting bone and maintaining their integrity to increase my lethal shot opportunities from broadside to quartering shots and possibly some that may be considered taboo. If it was simply broadside shots all the time, without animals ducking, turning or wind/torquing, then we would simply shoot sharpened field tips for superb accuracy. Blood has to hit the ground for the purpose of recovering the shot animal. I also prefer larger diameters to increase trauma and reduce the tracking distance. Anything I have shot 1.5" or greater has typically dropped game within 40yds.

Rage chisel xtreme entry, vitals, exit
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Like I said I shoot both and I think the Anarchy's will prove to be one bad arse head
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I mostly hunt Elk I forget that most AT folks are just hunting a average sized whitetail deer And I have bow hunted 40 years and followed many blood trails. Bear are notorious for closing up as so to speak.I didn't say broad side shots in my post Timmy I said shot placement there are diffently great shot place ment other than the classic broad side but as game gets bigger than a white tail deer you cant get stupid with your shoots expecally with Mc head you need bone braking straight line penetration as you would get from A all steel 2 blade double bevel .Timmy how many buffalo hunters do you see using Mc head.When that 600# bull Elk comes to my call and hangs back at 40 yards and gives me a good shot I want to have confidance in my broadhead I don't get that warm and fuzzy feeling with the mc head.They should give you a free happy meal with evey purchase.

 

[TimmyZ7]

I mostly hunt Elk I forget that most AT folks are just hunting a average sized whitetail deer And I have bow hunted 40 years and followed many blood trails. Bear are notorious for closing up as so to speak.I didn't say broad side shots in my post Timmy I said shot placement there are diffently great shot place ment other than the classic broad side but as game gets bigger than a white tail deer you cant get stupid with your shoots expecally with Mc head you need bone braking straight line penetration as you would get from A all steel 2 blade double bevel .Timmy how many buffalo hunters do you see using Mc head.When that 600# bull Elk comes to my call and hangs back at 40 yards and gives me a good shot I want to have confidance in my broadhead I don't get that warm and fuzzy feeling with the mc head.They should give you a free happy meal with evey purchase.

You are right. I was narrowminded as well considering only deer and not the larger game out West. When bone gets tougher than a whitetails I will definitely opt for my tougher steel fixed heads. Confidence is definitely key in your equipment I agree. I still believe that some heads hold superior to other by way of material integrity, geometry, etc. in their ability to hit the vitals through bone.

 

[salmon killer]

You are right. I was narrowminded as well considering only deer and not the larger game out West. When bone gets tougher than a whitetails I will definitely opt for my tougher steel fixed heads. Confidence is definitely key in your equipment I agree. I still believe that some heads hold superior to other by way of material integrity, geometry, etc. in their ability to hit the vitals through bone.

Timmy have you got to try the all steel Ulmer expandable head it also has a single bevel 2 bld I would love to try on deer antelope I think this might be the bar for expandable.

 

[SierraMtns]

Take a look at this.

Dr Ashby did some research about broadheads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npADDOKzI5o&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLYALMy9JiDO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INjgQ0g36aU

 

[Tugman]

Take a look at this.

Dr Ashby did some research about broadheads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npADDOKzI5o&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLYALMy9JiDO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INjgQ0g36aU

VERY enlightening! Thanks!