100% agree. I ve tried up doinker elite and quatra flex and their result make no different.I wish I could give you a good positive answer Jeff. I've shot both, the solid and a 4 rod. Honestly, I think the wind has more affect on you and the bow than the stabilizer. This is where your V-bars may come into play. Like Ken said a heavy stabilizer may help reduce the amount of movement you get. This is something I was wanting to play with this year. Unfortunately I have not had much time to work with side weights yet. I've been working more on arrows recently.