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2.2K views 20 replies 19 participants last post by  thirdhandman  
#1 ·
So my last 2 arrow builds have been with outserts. Easton axis and victory XVs. I know they’re kind of the new thing. I was just curious why people shoot them and the advantages. I’ve only bent a couple and it doesn’t seem to be abhugrb issue. The victory’s seem to be a better product just due to the fact they protect the shaft and seem to be less prone to bending than the east one since the shaft is in it further thus reducing leverage.

I’m considering going back to standard diameter carbons because they seem to be more durable, cheaper, and tolerances are the same. For me gold tip hunters seemed to be the most durable shaft I ever have used.

Just another archery fad?
 
#4 ·
I like the the regular gold tip Insert system on my Victory SS arrows.
I don't have to worry about spinning the outserts to take out any broadhead wobble.
If I bend a outsert, I just pull it off and replace it.
They fit tight like they are glued on also.
Not as tough as others but plenty cheap and take a beating.
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#6 ·
I bent bunch of outserts, even the stainless steel ones, went to 6MM ( no outsert required) and the problem went away. Decide wether you want to deal with bent inserts or go to a larger diameter shaft. A light insert allows for to use a heavier/stronger broad head on the same spine, which is a good thing IMO. (PS, the deer don't seem to notice the difference between a 5MM and a 6MM shaft). That being said, for my turkey arrow I an using some 5mm shafts I had laying around with stainless inserts, might as well use them up, I did ruin an outsert when one of my arrows went through my target and hit a tree bare shaft tuning for the smaller diameter LOL
 
#7 ·
Outserts are older then most of the carbon arrows shot today
the original bemans all had outserts they sucked back then
they are just reinventing the wheel as far as footers go they are not an outsert they are just to protect the tip from intact as the hit style inserts leave the tip exposed and those broadheads that use the shaft to secure the blades or fold back expandable heads can split the shaft
the original Easton BAR is bulky and gets stuck bad in any target so footers slim line and if a good fit still get stuck in a bag but they are fine in other style targets
 
#9 ·
I remember when Beman first came out with skinny carbon arrows and they had the outserts. I never really liked them. Then they came out with standard size carbon arrows with standard inserts like aluminum arrows had. That made carbon arrows a lot better. Now a lot people are going back to outserts...kinda like a step backwards in my opinion. I see no need for outserts. I like to keep things simple and not complicate them by having to deal with outserts!
 
#12 ·
I like the black eagle bone crusher outserts and the gold trad 600 outserts. I'm not sure why Those are considered outserts when they only stick out about a quarter inch farther than a regular insert. I've shot them into 2x4s rocks and a ton of animals. I've never bent one.

I went down the arrow building rabbit hole several years ago. I've came to the conclusion that I like simple, tough, and cheap.
I use hot melt so I can change my arrow or salvage parts if one breaks. I've had several Hits come out the side of my arrows. I've had the epoxy lose bond. I also don't like fighting targets because the footer gets hung up.
It got to the point where I was judging animals by if they were worth losing or breaking and arrow for. That's when I realized I was putting way too much money in components.
 
#14 ·
I hunt with GT Pierce Platinums with the insert and outsert/collar system and have has no issue with bending, but I know guys with the same setups and have had nothing but issues and wont shoot outserts ever again. So in my opinion it just comes down to what you trust more and what you can get to shoot the best for you. It's like almost everything else in archery, some people will hate them and some will swear by them.