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What's some of the secrets some of you guys (or gals) use to get the peep alignment correct. I'm using a Fletcher TruPeep and I can't seem to get it to sit right. I've tried a twist or two in the string even swapping a strand for another on the opposite side of the peep but still it manages to end up side ways. And no I'm not going to use rubber tubing. :D :D
 

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What is your string made of? It sounds like your string is still stretching. Do you use a string loop?
 

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BH you are reading my mind. String loop will help. If the string has a bunch of shots on it already then you might want to change string material to something that has a lower stretch.

I agree on the tubing. Super Peep for me.:cool:
 

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The string was on the bow when purchased used and it was homemade so that's probably the problem. I do shoot with a string loop but I hate to have to adjust for every shot. It's driving me crazy....:eek: :eek: :eek:
 

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A trick I learned a while back when making strings was to serve in the same direction as the twists. If served the opposite way, the peep had a tendency to never get "settled" for good once broke in.

Might recommend winners choice or zebra twist. Never had any problem with either if you can't get it fixed.

Try rotating strands like you said, and then get some shots on it. Do just one strand at a time. Remember, if you add one strand to the left side, roll one to the right side on the opposite side of the peep. I've seen guys try to switch strands on just the riser side or the back side. This goes against the string twist.

I think I just confused myself. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say.:confused:
 

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I have fixed this problem recently. I had to remove and reapply the end servings, as stated above, going with the direction of twist. Voila!

Sean
 

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Zebra Twist? Now you know that stuff doesn't stop stretching. :(

Get a new string. Winner's Choice or a Berry.
 

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Here's what I've got on tuning the peep. Hope it helps. Be safe.
Shoot Straight
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"1. The very first thing an archer must understand is that all strings will settle. That is, it will stabilize into a position where it will have the least amount of stress or potential for movement. Never draw the bow without an arrow nocked.
After installing the peep on a new string, make note of which way the peep is facing. This position you will use as your guide. Now, without trying to aim, nock an arrow, point it safely at the target butt and release. You should notice that the peep has changed position. This will happen regardless of who made the string set you purchased. The string is becoming seated and on it’s way to settling. When bought, a new string is placed from a relaxed attitude to the highest continuous kinetic stress of any modern material. It must change. The string will creep, however slight and compress on itself because of the flex from the limbs. This is what the cause of peep rotation is all about. The stress of the bow will move the string to its’ most stable mode after all the shots have had their effect. Most manufacturers recommend that a string should be shot a couple of hundred times before it could be considered settled. This article will show you an easier way. Your peep is your guide and also your tool to knowing for yourself when a string has settled rather than guessing from shot quantity.
2. The bow must be shot until there is no movement from the peep. This is where the archer will know that the string has settled.
After you have shot the required number of times, you’ll notice the peep will be in exactly the same position after shooting no matter how many times shot. It could take as little as a dozen shots or as many as a few hundred. Regardless of the amount, the string WILL settle. This is the time to go to the next step. You have a constant to work with now. Bear in mind that this constant is a relative term as your string has already so much twist over its’ length.
3. Draw the bow slowly (nocked) and watch how the peep moves as the string goes through the draw cycle. This is the indicator. The archer then knows what to do with the peep.
After drawing the bow and watching which way the peep moved, you must place it in the bow press.
If your peep rotates from right to left, you will have to take the string off the lower post (finger/centre serving side for Solo cam bows) and turn it from right to left. How much you turn will depend on how much the string rotates through the draw cycle. The string is doing what it wants to do. All you do is help it go where it wants. This is very important. For a half turn rotation, turn the string a half turn. Draw and shoot the bow a number of times to re-settle the peep. If it still does not roll into your eye view, repeat the process or even try an additional full turn. Always shoot the bow a number of times the re-settle the peep before checking for position. If it rotates too far, turn the string back a half turn at a time. Never do more than a half to a full turn at a time because you are close to where the string wants to be at rest. Too many turns gives a settled string much more than it wants to do. I describe it this way to make it easier to visualize. Always, a little at a time will give much better results.
4. If the peep sits exactly opposite to the position desired the next step is quite simple. The archer then just flips the peep to face him/her.
Flipping the peep requires you to go to the bow press again. You don’t have to relax the string completely. Relax only enough to be able to get the peep out and turn it a half turn. Remember that each time the bow is in the press, it has to be shot to re-settle.
5. Sometimes the archer will notice that the peep sits at ¾ of the way no matter what he does. At this point the archer knows he is so close any post or peep movement is too much.
If you can’t seem to get the peep in the right place no matter what is done, you are almost at its’ optimum position. Any post or peep adjustment that is too far and you haven’t yet pulled your hair out is the time to flip strands. This step requires the most care and you go back to the bow press. Relax the string again as in the previous step. Look carefully at the direction of the string twist (all bowstrings MUST have twist and never buy one without). For example, if the normal twist of the string is from right to left and your peep must move to the left an 8th of a turn, give or take, do this. On the face of the peep facing you most, take 2 strands from the left side and flip them to the right side. On the opposite face, take 2 strands from the right side and flip them to the left side. This will pull the peep over to the direction you want. If you want to move it slightly the other way, just do the same steps in the opposite direction. I chose 2 strands for simplicity but there is no set number. The more strands means more movement. This last step is done only when all the previous steps were done first. Draw and shoot the bow a number of times to re-settle the string.
This system for taming peep rotation is also effective for archers using string loops. The only difference is that the string loop must be turned as well and more care taken to allow the string its’ movement. Remember: always let the string go where it wants and let it finish what it wants to do.
There you have it. This method does work and it must be done properly. An archer may have to play with this a couple of times as string quality varies tremendously from one manufacturer to the next. It is my experience that in a short time, sometimes as quick as a half hour, you are freed of those loud, clumsy string additions that slow a bow down by as much as 10 - 20 ft per second."
 

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peep

Go buy yourself a Genesis peep...no matter how the string turns, the peep will always true up...there's a little ball inside the peep housing and you have a partner turn it whiole you're at full draw...when it stretches and turns again, you turn the little ball once more. I have one, and am cycling all y peeps out to those...much less hassle.
 

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A few migh call B.S. on this, but once I installed the peep on my Berry String it never moved again.
 

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As an adition to my original post, I would like to add some details.
When I build a string, I do my best to pre-stretch and twist before serving. On occasion, I will build a string that exhibits a peep rotation of about 180 degrees and i have discovered that serving with too little tension may cause this problem.
Around a quarter turn is acceptable to me but a 180 is not, as the more movement the less consistent it will be under temp changes.

I dont get any pleasure out of making strings, but it saves lots of $ and it allows me to experiment much more than I would buying pre made strings.

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I back up what AKDoug said! Once my fletcher peep was put in my new Berry string and got the string all set on my Razortec it hast moved ABIT since that first night it was setup! Im sure there are other string makers that make strings that do the same, but the Berry strings are GREAT! I was using a custom string made from 8125 and I battled with that for about a year! Every time the temp outside changed, so did the peep alignment! But with the set-up made out of Ultracam it hasnt moved!
 

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Me too! I'm a big fan of Berry strings. I hate fighting with equipment. I'd much rather shoot. With Berry strings I no longer deal with peep rotation issues.

AKDoug said:
A few migh call B.S. on this, but once I installed the peep on my Berry String it never moved again.
 
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