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peep sight/ sight housing help

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#1 ·
Hi im new to this page, and just picked up a compound bow after 15 years. I have everything well tuned on my bow. I have a Martin cheetah pro series m54 1995 and im having trouble with getting my anchor point Set. My sight housing is almost all the way up to the top of my riser and my peep is about 1in to low. If i raise my peep up do i have to raise my sight housing??? And if i do i won't have full view of my sight housing...what other options do i have?? Any help would be !!highly appreciated!!!
 
#2 ·
Raising your peep will require lowering your sight.

If you are going to move your peep without a press, have someone slide it while you hold the bow at full draw (never draw without an arrow pointed safely). The string is under less tension at full draw. Ideally you should press the bow to avoid string damage.
 
#8 ·
No, no and more no. Moving the peep up will cause you to drop your anchor which will cause you to hit higher. To sight in a bow you chase the arrow so if your arrows are hitting higher, you have to move the pins up. Also, if you need to slide your peep, just do it the correct/safe way and use a bow press. You'll need the press anyway when the peep twists from moving it.

A picture of you at full draw would really be helpful. At this point I'm only guessing, but I'd bet that your anchor is too low. Also, depending on your anchors points the draw length of the bow might be too long. The Cheetah is a very short ATA bow which leads to an acute string angle and a peep location higher than needed with longer ATA bows. Again, picture would most likely tell the tale.
I agree with this. A picture is the easiest way to diagnose these issues. I'd also add that you may have either a really high rest or low nock point. I know you said that you have it tuned well but it still could be possible. Another possibility could be that you need to flip your sight mounting bracket. Some sights have mounting brackets that angle so that you can flip it to gain a bunch of vertical adjustment.
 
#3 ·
Nope. If you raise your peep height, you'll shoot higher if you don't move your sight. If anything, you'll gave to lower your sight to adjust for the additional elevation. Set your anchor point, get comfy, set your peep, then adjust your sight accordingly.
 
#4 ·
Assuming, as you said, everything is set up properly on your bow, my guess would be that your anchor is too low. This would cause you to have a too high poi, and cause your sight to run out of elevation adjustment.

Raising your peep will cause you to shoot higher, which will require you to raise your sight even more to compensate.

As stated above, your best bet would be to set your anchor point first, this will vary as to location depending on what type of release you are shooting. Then set your peep height from there.

Hopefully Alan will chime in with some more detailed advice

Cheers
 
#6 ·
I'm confused as to your question...

Peep height is determined by your anchor point...find a spot on your face that is comfortable to anchor against and can be consistently repeated and adjust your peep height till you can see thru it. Tie it in so it wont move. Should be around 5.5 to 6.0" above center of nock pt depending on axle to axle length of the bow. On to the sight...is it a pin sight or a slider? Does your bow riser have more than 1 set of holes for mounting of a sight? If your sight housing is as high as it will go and your shots are still hitting high then see if there are a higher set of riser holes to mount the sight to the bow with. If there are not then I would agree with the others that your peep is too high up the string which is making your anchor point too low. Check the measurement Peep to Nock Pt and post it up.
 
#7 ·
A picture of you at full draw would really be helpful. At this point I'm only guessing, but I'd bet that your anchor is too low. Also, depending on your anchors points the draw length of the bow might be too long. The Cheetah is a very short ATA bow which leads to an acute string angle and a peep location higher than needed with longer ATA bows. Again, picture would most likely tell the tale.
 
#14 ·
If you want to shoot accurately do not try to align your peep with your pin housing,

Archery is no different then other sport. To prove the point, think about the athlete who make a running catch. To catch the ball as he is running at top speed he does not think of where his feet are landing or how long his stride needs to be. What he does is focus on the ball. His speed is set subconsciously. When he reaches out for the ball he does not aim his hand at the ball. He keep his focus on the ball, his prize, and his hand reaches out subconsciously.

The same is true in archery. The key to shooting accurately is to focus on the target, your prize.

There are those who want you to mechanically align your peep and your pin housing while at the same time aligning your pin with your target. That is like telling the ball player to be sure to check to see if his arm is extended far enough while at the same time to be sure to aim his hand at the path of the ball. It just does not work. Yogi Berra.is quoted as saying, How can you hit the ball, when your thinking of hitting the ball. Yogi was a wise man. If you are thinking of aligning your peep with your pin housing and your pin with your target, you will not be able to do either. Instead you will cause tension and target panic.

Then what should you do. Do what other athletes do focus on your target and let your subconscious
align your eye and your pin with your target. The more you focus the quicker and more accurately your eye will center on your peep and your pin will move to your target. Be like all other athletes focus on your target and let your subconscious do the aiming.
 
#16 ·
Um yeah. You can focus all you want on the target but if you don't first have the peep lined up, all the focus in the world won't get your arrow to the same place every time. While you're new to the sport, you do have to "mechanically" line things up. Once you've gotten the muscle memory, you can then take your mind off of it and it will become a subconscious act. That takes time and practice. Every MLB hitting champion focused on the basics when starting out and this situation is no different.
 
#18 ·
"" F.Y.I. my bow is pointing out side at my shooting block"""Sorry it took so long to get back. From the pic u might not be able to tell but i have to title my head down about 1in to see clear through my peep...i have 2 more pics of just my bow i going to send, one of a side view, one of a back view looking down the string at the angle i see through
 

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#30 · (Edited)
Looking at your form you need to use a lower grip. The picture shows your bow pointing downward. Your bow was not made for you to shoot it with a high grip.

A low grip will have the pressure of the grip even all the way to your wrist bone.


The picture are not the best because the bow was held in one hand and the picture was taken by the other.

Changing your grip will make the bow stand more vertical.

The other thing could be your bottom limb has more tension then your upper.
 
#19 ·
Your setup doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary. Your peep is a little low for you but not much. I think your DL could possibly be a little long. You are leaning back some which can mean that you're drawing a little long. It's tough to tell about nock height and all that while at full draw but it would be obvious to you if you were sitting nock low. Also, your sight bracket is already angling upward so no option to flip it for more adjustment.

Are you making sure to use your top pin and do you have that pin slid up in the housing?
 
#21 ·
Thank u all for ur info everyone...i had just noticed that ware i do my paper tuning is on a slit incline so it could have given me a fals read, and i just seen last night that at a full draw my arrow points up some..so if the rain ever lets up in going out back to play with my nock to see if i can get any better results....I've found you all really helpful, more helpful the any YouTube video's thats for shore.....i am a die-hard archery fan. For the last 6-8 month I've been shooting everyday for at least 3 hrs a day...i look forward to having more discussion on the page..so far iv harvested 1doe at 22yards,one raccoon at 17yards, 8 squirrels at 20-30 yards...and hope for more to come
 
#22 ·
I have one more question....im in the market for new startings and cables. The sight thats im looking on asks for the measurements of course. But im not shore what "cable #1" and "cable #2" is??? Iv never heard any one call the cable's by numbers before..can anyone help me out on this one??
 
#23 ·
Your bow only has one cable. Being a single cam bow, you have a string and buss cable. I'm not sure what website you're using to order your string or where you're getting them from but there are a lot of sales from our sponsors on here. Check them out if you haven't already.
 
#25 ·
I just got off of 60x page n they r asking for a model number??? I dont know the model of my bow all i know is its a Martin cheetah pro series m54....this might be a dumb question, but it that what the m54 is?? Like model 54?
 
#26 ·
Yep. Brad should have all the specs for it.
 
#31 ·
Thanks, i will look in to it n let you know how it goes...any suggestions on arrows? Right now I'm shooting C.E. piledriver , all n all the arrows are 479gr witch i think is a little too heavy...i love the kinetic energy thay have but im looking for a good balance between speed n kinetic energy...can anyone let me know of some arrows that won't break the bank????