Need a new string. I had that happen to me with a brand new set of 60x no matter what I did I could not fix the issue every shot the peep and d loop would rotate 180 degrees I ended up getting a different brand of strings never had issue again

 

One twist or 2 twists is clearly not enough.
To fix peep rotation, requires a TWO step process.

FIRST, you work the top of the bowstring, the TOP end loop, adding or removing EnOUGH twists,
to get the peep to point straight ahead, LIKE this....at brace height. if you try 1 twist, and the peep is not pointing straight at brace, then, go back to the bow press and do 2 more twists. But, that means I am up to 3 twists. Yup.
IS the peep pointing straight at brace, like this?



Wait a sec. WHERE is the peep serving up at the top of the triangle? REmoved it.
But your peep is going to move all over the place? Nope. TIED in the peep around the groove.
BUT, I never tie in around the groove of the peep. Heard that on the internet.
Then, your peep is not TIED IN. TIE in the peep using the groove around the OUTSIDE edge of the peep.
BUT, what about the serving SQUEEZING down the triangle above the peep?

Remove it. This is part of the reason your peep is twisting.

What about all the SERVING below the lower triangle?
REMOVE it. This is the other reason your peep is twisting all over the place, cuz you SQUEEZED the lower triangle down to nearly nothing.

 

Now, that the peep is pointing straight, at brace,
fire a dozen. shots.

BUT, now the peep is crooked again, but just a little. So, go back to the bow press
and adjust by 1/2 twist to get the peep pointing straight again at brace. Fire a dozen shots.
Might need another 1/2 twist to get the peep pointing straight again at brace. Fire a dozen shots. Get peep as straight as you can, at brace height.



Now, for part 2.

 

Part 1 got the peep pointing straight at brace. You fired a dozen shots, and fine tuned the twists, half twists
at the TOP of the bowstring, to get the peep pointing straight at brace.

So, PART 2 is to get to ZERO peep rotation. So, when you goto full draw, the peep spins like crazy
and you cannot see thru the peep at full draw. So, part 2 is to get the peep into balance. So, now we twist or untwist the BOTTOM OF THE BOWSTRING, to get the peep to rotate in REVERSE.

Say WHAT?

You heard me. We are gonna do SOOOOOO many twists on the BOTTOM end loop of the bowstring,
to get the peep to rotate BACKWARDS.

WHY the heck would I want to make the peep rotate BACKWARDS? R U crazy?
Nope, this is to save time, for all the folks who say they did 1 twist, and the peep is still rotating.
So, figure out if you need to ADD or if you need to REMOVE 10 twists, to get the peep to rotate BACKWARDS.
THIS way, you will figure out REAL fast, if ADDING or if REMOVING twists at the bottom of the peep, makes the peep rotate BACKWARDS.

So, you had to REMOVE 10 twists, to get the peep to rotate BACKWARDS.
YOu fired a dozen shots, and the peep is still rotating BACKWARDS, cuz you REMOVED 10 twists.

So, now we know that removing 10 TWISTS, was the CORRECT direction to FIX peep rotation,
but we OVER-did it. So, since you REMOVED 10 twists, and the peep rotates BACKWARDS,
now ADD back in 5 twists.

Shoot a dozen shots. Peep rotates BACKWARDS still, but only rotates BACKWARDS a little bit.
So, since the last thing you did was add back in 5 TWISTS,
now add back in 1 twist.

FIRE a dozen shots. OH NO. Peep rotates FORWARDS, but a TINY bit.
Since last thing you did was add 1 twist,
now REMOVE 1/2 twist.

FIRE a dozen shots. PEEP is finally at ZERO rotation,
but the peep is at zero rotation, and points a TINY BIT crooked.

LAST step. I promise.

BUT, I don't have any Kenny Parsons rubber string silencers.
Fine. Use a 1-inch length of paracord. The paracord will stay in your string forever.



Slide the 1-inch length of paracord up high enough, that you cannot see the paracord when you look thru the peep.
Then, sliding the paracord up 1/4 inch, will spin/point the peep one direction, when at full draw.
Then, sliding the paracord down 1/8th inch, will spin/point the peep the other direction, when at full draw.
You can fine tune where the peep is pointing, in SUPER tiny amounts.

 

So, you do all of the steps above, and you finally get the peep to ZERO rotation,
and you shoot and shoot and shoot,
and after a week, the peep rotation comes back.

You have a busted strand under a serving somewhere,
and NOW....you really do need a new string.

 

I'll have to try all the things N&B said above. I also found that unhooking the end loop, taking the string off the cam, straightening out the string, and THEN adding or removing twists makes a big difference over just unhooking the end loop and adding/removing twists. When I did it the second way, I saw no changes, even after shooting a dozen or more shots.

 

The peep and everything is in line. But when I pull it back it twist to the left, just enough for me not to be able to see out of my peep.


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The peep and everything is in line. But when I pull it back it twist to the left, just enough for me not to be able to see out of my peep.


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1) Unhook bottom of the bowstring.
2) Work twists, enough twists added or removed, to get peep to rotate to the RIGHT.

3) So, if ADDING 10 twists, makes the peep rotate to the right, then, cut the correction in half, by removing 5 twists.
.....continue removing a half twist, to 4.5 twists removed, then, 4 twists removed in total, then 3.5 twists removed in .....total until you get to zero peep rotation.

4) So, if REMOVING 10 twists, makes the peep rotate to the right, then, cut the correction in half, by adding 5 twists.
....continue adding a half twist, to get to 4.5 twists added in total, then, 4 twists added in total, then, 3.5 twists added in total, then 3.0 twists added in total, until you get to the sweet spot, where you have zero peep rotation.

 

nuts&bolts is like the ArcheryTalk Godfather... he comments, I listen and learn!...

 

Hey nuts&bolts,.. are you familiar with the Tim Gillingham peep tie in?.. see any issues with this approach?.. equal knots on top and bottom of peep, with peep tied into string in the groove. Seems simple and effective... this is what I've been doing on my bow.

 

Thats what I use. My peep at rest is slightly leaning right at brace but perfect at draw.

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In any case, use constrictor hitch around the peep groove, half hitch around string adds tension, second one is made to tuck in the serving thread. Done right anything else is just cosmetic.

 

I watched a video the other day with, Nathan Brooks, discussing this. Another method he mentioned was to relocate individual strands. If the peep is twisted right, you take one strand from the right, and move it across the top of the peep. Then take one strand from the left and move it under the peep to the right. If the peep is twisted left, you would do the opposite. Left over top to the right, right underneath to the left.

Here is the video I watched. Don't have any experience with the single strand method, but it makes sense. Hope it helps.

 

If your peep at full draw is just needing a little help and one half twist is just not helping things then you can TRAIN YOUR PEEP.

this has became my primary method for setting up my peep in the last few years because the more I do it the more it proves to be a awesome thing.

1. You need to have shot enough and twisted the peep before each shot to know the starting position it needs to have.

2. Grab the peep and twist it 3 full revolutions and hold it there for 2 minutes.

3. Now unwind the peep and it is not going to go quite far enough so you will have to help it to that good starting position you knew it needs to be at.

4. Now start shooting and do not touch the peep and you are going to get about 5 or 10 minutes of shooting until it looses it.

5. repeat the process twisting it 3 full revolutions and holding it for 2 minutes.


This train your peep method will get better and better over the next couple weeks and you will go days and then weeks between needing to train it. Right now I am on year 4 with my string set and the last time I had to train my peep was back in august of last season. My bow sit all winter because I didn't train this winter and I am now shooting again a little and it is still perfect with no need for me to help it.

 

That's quite the process N&B proposes.

The real answer is you need a string with equal length strands. Uneven strand tension while building the string makes it twist when drawn.
You might get lucky and buy a commercial string that doesn't. Most will. Building your own takes commitment but you can develop a process that cures this issue.

 

i am so confused. i am trying to twist my string to shorten the draw length bc i am in between 1/2 inch draw mods. then im trying to get my peep aligned. i am good on the draw length now but now i have peep rotation. maybe an 1.8th of a turn

when twisting strings to shorten draw length (mathews vertix) do i do equal amounts on the top and bottom?

i saw somewhere that i add more twist to the bottom than the top bc the distance to the peep was longer than the top so it needed more twists. maybe that was incorrect as nuts and bolts is implying the top is for brace peep and the bottom is for roation? again im confused

i added i think 2 twists on the top and 4 on the bottom. maybe that how i gave myself peep rotation? I didnt have it before