Not sure about your questions up there. I did try planting persimmons and apple trees years back. The deer destroyed the plants especially the apple trees. So if you do plant them put a small fence or something else around them or the deer will kill them.

 

Persimmon trees are tricky. There are 7 of them in my yard. One of them always puts on blooms and then they fall off. Three of them always have persimmons. Three of them never have persimmons. Only one of the seven trees has persimmons that the deer will eat. There have been many deer in my yard and they only eat from the same tree year after year. I have also found this to be true with persimmon trees in the wild. Some do....some dont .....and some are deer magnets. I dont know why...

 

Here is a great place to read about all the different varieties of Persimmons. I live near this business and they are great to deal with....http://www.chestnuthilltreefarm.com.../c/39-Native-and-Oriental-Persimmon-Trees.aspx?gclid=CKTG6rDxuLcCFXRk7AodbGEAXg

 

Apple trees need at least two that are not the same species and are compatible with each other.

Matt

 

Your best source for tree species would be the local farm bureau rep or county arborist. Also, if you know of any commercial apple orchards in your area, talk with them. I learned a lot about apple trees after working at the orchard I have permission to hunt.
Whatever variety you plant, you have to cage it, otherwise the deer will eat it, if not, later they with rub or break it come Fall.
Once the trees mature and start bearing fruit, in January you have to prune limbs. The arborist told me that the more smaller, sucker limbs you prune/cut off, the more fruit the tree will bear because more nutrients, water can get to the fruit instead of the smaller limbs. You'll have healthier, bigger apples.