I do know that if I would switch to a 125 with my setup, I would also have to go to a 340 spine vs the 400 I shoot now

IMO that's the only con with 125's......that is, unless you already have the 340's. And then it's not a con at all.

With my 60lb bow I'm a little underspined with 125's and 340's, so I tend to try to use 100's with that, but otherwise.......I love 125's. I'm even going to try some 150gr Silverflames on my FMJ's.

 

For deer here in the Mid-Atlantic region, 415gr from any newer bow over 60lbs is just plain overkill. Tip weight is a matter of managing spine and flight properties.

In fact, I suspect that there may be more to KE than momentum. This year the heaviest arrow I used was 375gr, and the lightest, 315gr, both were in the dirt. Last year the only deer I DIDN'T shoot through was on a broadside shot at a doe, with a 425gr CX Terminator/125gr Slick, from my 60lb Supertec. ? Don't know why, as the same shot with a CX200/85gr Slick froma 60lb Vipertec went through a larger buck like a knife through butter, on about the same shot placement.

I use whatever shoots the best, and keep 75/85/100/125gr heads, fixed and mechanicals. ON PA/NY/MD/NJ whitetails, they all work just fine, if they fly well.

 

I have gotten rid of all my 100 grain heads except 3. I only shoot 125 grain heads now and I have the proper spine arrows that shoot great with them. It helps with foc and I have had very good luck with them. They just plain work good for me and I have no intentions on changing. One of my bows is shooting a 415 grain arrow like the OP's and the other is 380 grains.

 

You would not necessarily have to abandon your 400 spine arrows. I shot 400 spine arrows for years with 125 grain broadheads out of a 70lb bow with a 29" draw length.

What is your draw length, draw weight, and bow?

 

Is there any 200 grain broadheads made for compound bows?

 

You bet.:thumbs_up

Silverflames come in 180 and 210 grain models, and Ashby heads come in a 315 grain model.

There are several other dangerous game heads in the 200 grain and up range.:smile:

 

Tman, I personally do not see a 415 grain arrow as being over kill. Mine is going 265 fps thats about all I can get out of her. Its thick where I hunt and I take weird angle shots. I have found the 415 grain arrow to be the trick. I guess to each their own.

 

Tman, I personally do not see a 415 grain arrow as being over kill.

Me either. In fact, my 420gr Maxima Hunter 350's are the lightest arrows I would use for hunting, and those I only use in my 60lb bow. All my .300 spine arrows tend to be a little on the heavier side. I'd have no problem using my 537gr or 500gr arrows on deer or even smaller animals. In fact I hunted Pronghorns this year with my 500gr arrows, and was prepared for shots up to 80 yards.

 

Not to hijack my own thread, but spine ? The post about the 60 lb bow being underspined with 340's seems contrary to what I would have thought. Then another guy says he's shooting 70 lb 29 inch with 125's on a 400 spine arrow, which to me seems very weak. I am shooting about 64 lbs at 28 inches with 100 gr heads on a 400 spine. I thought that was borderline weak, but they fly well. Anyway back to my original ? How do you guys like 125's?

 

You state that you are shooting a 28" draw length, but how long are your arrows? Just shaft length?

BTW, a really fast bow like an Omen, Monster, After Burner, etc. would likely be too much for a 400 spine arrow with 29" draw length, 70#, and a 125 grain tip.

Broad head weights are a personal choice. For me, I would never consider using a 100 grain head. I like a combination of weight and speed. I also like a fair amount of FOC for shooting fixed blade heads. The last time I used 400 spine arrows with a 125 grain tip they were going through the chrono at 302fps, and they grouped like field points out to 70 yards. I have long since gone to heavier arrows.

 

Just noticed that 5milesback is a 32 inch draw. That explains part of it

 

My arrows are cut to 27.5 inches. The bow is an Alphamax.

 

Nothing wrong with 125gr heads. I've killed a lot of deer over the years with them (Wasps, Thunderheads, & Slick Tricks) as well as 100gr tips (Muzzys & Slick Tricks). I'm currently hunting with 125gr Magnus 2 blades since I switched to a recurve.

As you can see by the above posts that lots of broadhead/shaft combinations work very well for deer. Shoot whatever head that spins true, flies like your field points and above all; keep the blades scarey sharp.

:darkbeer:

 

I bought the 125g 2 blade Buzzcuts to shoot out of my recurve and now I shoot them out of my compound as well. Just screwed them on and they hit right where my 125g Montecs did:darkbeer:

 

I shoot 125gr because of better flight..i use 4" feathers on a 29" arrow and a 125 head and i get great groups at 50 yards..i could go with 4" vanes and a 100gr head and still be pretty close to 360gr but some 125gr broadheads have a little bigger cut too and thats a plus....i would say what ever head you use would depend on how much finished arrow weight you want...your only going to change your speed by 5fps with a +or- 25gr head...JMO

 

I shoot 27.5" Maxima AramidKv 250's, 397 dynamic spine, out of my '07 Guardian set at 28.5DL and 65lbs. I shoot a 125g head with total arrow weight of 408g at 280fps. They fly great.

If you find that your arrows are a little under spined with the 125's you could always add a cresting wrap, around 1g per inch and typically 7 inches, this will likely stiffen up the arrows plenty. A lot cheaper than buying new arrows!:darkbeer:

 

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