[V-TRAIN]

I’ve used Easton brass 50/75g HIT inserts with the Iron Will 10g. It’s a solid system but I had 2 of my inserts seat too deep, waste of expensive arrows. I could feel the tool creating a vacuum and feel like it needs a relief hole or notch.
I’ve also used the victory shok ss insert (60g) and don’t have any complaints with them.
In theory the hit inserts and collars would be stronger but with 2 wasted arrows I’m a little sour on the process.

You need to remove the nock before trying to install them, and don't put it back in until after 24 hours.
That will solve the vacuum issue.

 

[Ando11]

Iron will HIT and collars for sure

 

[fountain]

Ok. Sounds like the iron will hit insert and collar are the go to. Next question I have is can you put them in with hot melt instead of a super glue/epoxy?

Ive got some hexx 260 that just don’t work for my set up so I’m looking to try the rip tko.

 

[cflann]

Ok. Sounds like the iron will hit insert and collar are the go to. Next question I have is can you put them in with hot melt instead of a super glue/epoxy?

Ive got some hexx 260 that just don’t work for my set up so I’m looking to try the rip tko.

yep. I hot melt all of mine with the hot melt iron will sells on their site

 

[archer8030]

I Actully like the rip in/outserts I know people had issues with them bending I have yet to have one do that to me

I know so far in the thread everyone is saying some form of hit and collar. Im sure they are very durable.

I’ll just say that all I use on rip and rip tko are the 60 grain stainless steel shok ss insert. I’ve put them through many animals without even a wobble. It takes a clean miss into rocky ground to get just a slight wobble out of one for me. I’ve had some clean miss hard impact that have blunted field points and the arrow still spins true. I am 31” dl and shoot 70 to 75 lbs so there is a lot of energy behind my arrows. No problems getting them out of bag targets for me either. I have had issues in the past with some collars and bag targets or bulldog brand targets.

I square the ends of my arrows and use insert iron for the adhesive. Have to let it cure for a night before shooting, but works like a charm for me. Never had one come out bad and I’ve built dozens of arrows using the above method.

Same for me. Any time (and every time) I build up some Victory RIP/RIP TKO arrows (300's), I've always used their inserts. I have some with the 60gr SHOK SS insert and I have some with the 50gr SHOK TL204 insert and to date, I have yet to have one break, bend or deform in any way. I also use Victory's Black Fusion insert glue and again, to date, I have yet to have an insert come out, break loose or do anything other than hold fast as it should.

 

[RiversideHunter]

You need to remove the nock before trying to install them, and don't put it back in until after 24 hours.
That will solve the vacuum issue.

Actually removing the nock hurt. The vacuum was caused by the depth setting tool and insert, not nock and insert.

 

[denney767]

Is it possible to set up w victory for 65/28 around 420 grains or under with hit and collar?

 

[RiversideHunter]

Is it possible to set up w victory for 65/28 around 420 grains or under with hit and collar?

You should be able to get right around 400g with a 15g iron will insert, 10g iron will collar and a 100g broadhead.

 

[denney767]

You should be able to get right around 400g with a 15g iron will insert, 10g iron will collar and a 100g broadhead.

Do you have a link to that iron Wil insert? Are there or are there not any hit inserts that sit flush with these smaller 4mm type arrows??

 

[HsmithTX]

Call Iron Will, they will fix you up.

 

[Uniquename]

Is it possible to set up w victory for 65/28 around 420 grains or under with hit and collar?

MfJJ has a 30 grain titanium insert I believe also now.

 

[Ajax2744]

I have 2 different setups with rip tkos. One is a standard hit with a collar. First round almost all my inserts broke free. The epoxy didn’t stick to the shaft. And yes I properly cleaned them before gluing. So I pulled all the inserts and used a .20 cal bore brush to clean/score the id of the shaft and since then the inserts have been rock solid.
I also have some with the black eagle steel half outs with additional weight screwed into the back. They have also been very durable

 

[RangeTime]

RIP TKO 300
Podium Titanium Half Out (30gr) + Gold Tip Trad 600 Collar (11.5gr)

 

[neromich]

I've used firenock 30 grain titanium inserts.

 

[hoytslanger87]

Iron will components they also sell the hot melt they recommend as well.

 

[fountain]

Now I just need to find some to try out. Who’s got a few they want to sell for me to test? Got 8 hexx 260 I’ll swap for some

 

[Lwalicki13]

Iron Will

 

[Alkingwoodsman]

I have used the outsets for 3 years with no issues

 

[194373]

Looking at the rip tko shafts and I’m not up to par on all the insert/outsert options available today. It’s been a very very long time since I’ve used an outsert…like acc 3L-18 and beeman arrow days.
I’m looking to put together some rip tko 300 with 50-65gr inserts and will use 100gr points. What will be my strongest option and most durable for the insert/outsert? I know there are sever companies that make outsert kits and some use the hit inserts. I haven’t used the outserts so I’m a little worried about bending them or something of that nature.

Get the Easton Brass HIT inserts, and Gold Tips X-Small Ballistic Collars. Glue the inserts using regular glue after cleaning the inside of the shaft with acetone. Use hot melt glue for the collars (don't get hot melt on the front of the shaft or the collar and head won't sit true to the shaft). I used a combination similar to this on my Velocity RIP XV Gamer arrows. I used the standard aluminum HIT insert, though. With a 125 grain head, I got 15% FOC on a 27" arrow with a total arrow weight of 390 grains. My arrow blew through a deer on Opening Day and kept going until it got lost in really thick stuff.