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Rules Question: When Can You Nock The Arrow

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#1 ·
A general question, but there seems to be more WA shooters here and tend to be more up on the rules...

Question is, when can an arrow be nocked during competition while on the line? I can find rule references to team events, and can determine from listening to YouTube WA team events, that team shooters can't nock an arrow or attach a release until they are on the line, but what about single events when shooters are staying on the line? This would be more specific to alternate shooting match rounds under the clock; Can archer B nock an arrow while archer A is shooting and other way around, or does archer B have to wait until archer A has shot and B's clock has started? Similarly, can archer A nock his/her arrow during the 10 second "two beep" warning time before the clock starts, or must he/she wait until the "one beep" command to start shooting?

I was listening to one of the Lockdown Knockout matches this morning, and it really sounded like one archer was nocking his arrow while the second archer was in the middle of his shot... I know the L.K. rules are different, but I would have guessed as a matter of habit they would use a process similar to their regular competition guidelines.

Any references to actual rule numbers would be greatly appreciated; I tried the search feature on WA's rulebook page, but every reference I came up with pertained to team events.
 
#2 ·
Can archer B nock an arrow while archer A is shooting and other way around, or does archer B have to wait until archer A has shot and B's clock has started? Similarly, can archer A nock his/her arrow during the 10 second "two beep" warning time before the clock starts
Looking at some Youtube coverage of especially recent pre-COVID WA events, I see exactly what you are describing above. Haven't spent time in the rulebooks yet to give even remote assistance on specifics, sorry.

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#3 ·
When the whistle is blown and the archers step to the line, the arrow can then be nocked and not before. These are the rules for every competition except 3D where archers walk from target to target with an arrow nocked and ready in case a foam deer jumps out in front of them.

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#6 ·
Any references to actual rule numbers would be greatly appreciated; I tried the search feature on WA's rulebook page, but every reference I came up with pertained to team events.
I thought this would be easy to find references for in the WA rules, but it really isn't.

A deeper level of minutiae is here in the Judging Guidebook. It might be here, or in yet some other judging reference.
https://extranet.worldarchery.org/documents/index.php/documents/?doc=113

Here's my understanding of the rules, but I can't find the specific references to them.

In general, for WA events, you may nock an arrow anytime after you have been "called to the shooting line" by the two-whistles signal. You may not leave the shooting line with an arrow nocked on the string. I believe this is also the timing utilized for para-athletes who don't leave the line.

For alternating shooting rounds, archers may nock an arrow when the other archer is shooting. I think the first archer may nock an arrow during the 10 second pre-shooting time, but archer 2 has to wait until archer 1's shooting time begins.

For team events, recurve archers cannot pull an arrow from their quiver until both feet are over the 1m line. (The judging point is whether the arrow point is visible outside the quiver or not.) If they break this, they have to step outside of the 1m line, and re-step inside of it. But they can nock the arrow as soon as they pull it from the quiver. Compound archers can't pre-nock their releases, so some of them carry it in their mouths to keep their hands free while stepping forward.
 
#10 ·
bizarre. gt posted about an international match he witnessed where a judge threw a card for nocking an arrow too soon, and it (in his opinion) influenced the outcome of the match. gt said the call was unwarranted because it was an individual elim match.

OR, I could be hallucinating. But I don't think so.
 
#11 · (Edited)
I saw the post and was going to reply with a quote of it but it disappeared. Here's the match I'm pretty sure GT was referring to https://youtu.be/BolHHemnP1c The judge made Braden step back off the line then come back while the 20 second clock was ticking. It definitely influenced his shot timing and subsequently the match. IIRC, the outcome of that match had a significant impact on World Cup ranking too.
 
#16 ·
Kinda interesting how and why his post got removed. Not to hard too figure out when you stop and think about it though.
 
#20 ·
Imagine a call costing an archer hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars, and potentially a spot in the hall of fame. Because that's what a couple blown calls cost some NFL teams last year.

We'll have professional judges when the stakes are high enough.