Heres what you need to know go out and win a tournament and then you can prove to the archery that x works

also everyone has an opinion

so this came from a traditional standpoint where the goal for the arrow to leave the riser. So for a right handed recurve shooter to fletch left.

Now on the compound bow it is all dependent upon the serving rotation. The ironic this is the same shaft can rotate both directions. Levi morgan apparently fletched that specific shaft the way it turns out of the bow. Am i going to argue with levi ? No.

the elk shape guys do it some many hunting influencers. I personally dont care. Havent seen enough in my shooting to want to try it.

 

Heres what you need to know go out and win a tournament and then you can prove to the archery that x works

also everyone has an opinion

so this came from a traditional standpoint where the goal for the arrow to leave the riser. So for a right handed recurve shooter to fletch left.

Now on the compound bow it is all dependent upon the serving rotation. The ironic this is the same shaft can rotate both directions. Levi morgan apparently fletched that specific shaft the way it turns out of the bow. Am i going to argue with levi ? No.

the elk shape guys do it some many hunting influencers. I personally dont care. Havent seen enough in my shooting to want to try it.

I certainly can’t shoot the difference if there is a difference… every arrow I build is right helical with no exceptions. I have clocked bare shafts plenty but eventually quit caring, because I could tell no difference in accuracy or any other measurable effect

if people want to nerd out on arrow rotation and fletch accordingly, by all means…

I have 2 distinct categories for everything archery/hunting related… “things that matter” and “things that don’t matter”… fletching based on bare shaft rotation lands clearly in the “things that don’t matter” column for me.

 

Don’t know what you’re shooting but if it has a prong, drop away, or full capture like whisker biscuit l….the helical won’t matter…I build most for folks with a 1-2 degree offset and have no complaints. I know your post says try something new…I can warn you it might drive you nuts and Messi g around with arrows these days isn’t cheap….

Just something to think about

 

If you are a hunter and casual target shooter with a compound, RW, or LW, makes no difference. Pick one and go shoot something. That’s my opinion.

 

I can't help you
I shoot the same, no matter left or right.
Left left right left all day long

 

It’s all personal preference! If your tune is good, it dosen’t matter.

RavinHood, I have been a die hard Trad guy for the last 25yrs, up til about 18mo ago. I’m right handed and have always shot right helical. Again, if your tune is good, it dosen’t matter.

Except on a compound where you have a fletch hitting something on the bow (I.e. - cable, roller guard etc)

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In my mind the only time it really matters is if you’re shooting a single bevel head, then you want to match the helical to the broadhead rotation. But I’m sure there’s someone out there that has proved that doesn’t matter either. But it makes sense in my head and that’s what I’ve done on my arrow builds.


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In my mind the only time it really matters is if you’re shooting a single bevel head, then you want to match the helical to the broadhead rotation. But I’m sure there’s someone out there that has proved that doesn’t matter either. But it makes sense in my head and that’s what I’ve done on my arrow builds.

This is fairly easy. Shoot a bare shaft at 5 ft and at 7 ft and determine the direction of natural rotation off the string, fletch the same direction and put single bevel of the same direction on the front. How many feet down range before the fletchings slow, stop and reverse rotation I don’t know but will have an arrow that’s more accurate and easier to tune.

Only makes sense to work with the natural twist than against it.

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If your bare shaft rotates left after release put a left helical. Same if rotates right. Helical will continue to rotate with natural spin of the arrow. Most shooters can't tell a difference but makes sense to me. Some slow motion video on line actually shows the arrow correcting itself due to opposite helical which can affect arrow flight.

 

 

You can see a difference in flight that's been known for years.
I think probably 99 percent of people will not see a positive in the end result, either way they choose to go.

 

The only difference in right and left wing helical is what feather you are using. Right wing or left wing makes a little difference in the clamp.

If you are shooting vanes it doesn't matter which way you fletch. Some say left wing Helical will keep your tips on the arrows longer but I haven't had any problems shooting right. My friend gave me a Bitzenburger with a right helical and I've stayed with it.

I've been fletching for 30 year, took 20 years off and now I'm doing it again. I did win a National, 4 Regional and about a dozen state championships using my Right Helical with 4 four inch feathers. But like I said, that was a very long time ago.

 

The direction of twist in the string seems to have the most significant effect on the direction that the arrow wants to naturally rotate. Most strings are wound giving a left tendency of rotation. Hand torque can come into play as well. There are a few slow motion videos on YouTube demonstrating the lag time/distance required for the fletching to start stabilizing (spinning) the arrow. If you fletch with the natural rotation it stabilizes faster. If you fletch opposing the natural rotation there is a slight momentary lag before the arrow starts spinning. Most shooters will never really know the difference at their comfortable hunting range. Shooting targets at extended ranges will magnify the effect of the lag time before stabilization. I personally try to eek every bit of accuracy out of my equipment that I can. To each their own.

 

I'm going to purchase a couple of factory RHS fletched victory's on Monday to experiment with.
I plan to hack off 1 or two of the blazers,and put a backwards q2i shield cut left heli,one straight aae hybrid (as straight as my jig will do) and possibly another backwards X vane. Or other mongrel combos with random clocking and distance from nock as well as to make the offsets fight each other...

I think they might be loud and fly like a knuckle ball,I'm just curious to see

 

It makes absolutely zero difference. I have tested this extensively, and have had the exact same results every single time.

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You have been here long enough to have seen this has been beat to death. Bottom, bottom line use what ever makes your heart happy.

 

The guy that builds my arrows says he does everything with a right helical. The amount of time takes for the arrow to start to spin in that direction, or correct itself is so minimal that it’s a non issue. On the other hand, if you’re an expert archer, you may be able to see the difference between left or right helical. But to us average bow hunters, you likely won’t see any difference. I’ve heard you need to take a bare shaft and mark the nock, shoot a very close range and see what direction the nock spins. And fletch to that. I’ve never done that and all my arrows are right helical. I’ve noticed more of a difference bumping up spine, and point weight with accuracy than anything els. My arrow build is extremely forgiving. I would probably have the same results with straight fletches honestly, but my builder does right so that’s what I’m got. I’m a 28” draw, 70+ pounds. Shoot a 28.5”‘Easton axis 5mm match grade with 75 grain brass and a 100 grain head. 3 TAC came right helical. TAW 504 grains. They just fly perfectly out all my
70, and 60-65 pound bows. Hope this helps

 

On the other hand, if you’re an expert archer, you may be able to see the difference between left or right helical. But to us average bow hunters, you likely won’t see any difference.

I doubt that even......they might think they can and that little bit of mental placebo shows up in their overall scores but if a bullet spins CC or CCW it's not going to change the accuracy of the rifle. Or a football........or a baseball....or an arrow. This whole how the arrow spins naturally thing is an overthinkers wet dream IMO.

 

There is a difference for it but for most people the difference for it is gone............lol. It was about clearance and left hand vs right hand. But if you shoot a dropaway or WB it's a moot point what helical you shoot.

I still use a non-dropaway and non-WB style rest so it still matters to me. I get better clearance with Left helical. Especially as the arrow OD decreases and/or vane length increases.

If the rest isn't there when the arrow passes where it "was" then it's a non-issue....how can it be an issue?

 

Is it string and serving twist or the orientation of the loop that clocks the arrow?

 

It really doesn't matter what the root cause is....the results are still irrelevant. This is one of the little things people waste time with when they should really just be shooting instead.

 

Just choose what you prefer, and go shot some arrows.
With Todays modern compound bows, it’s mostly about you interfering as little as possible with the bow’s accuracy.

 

IT DOES NOT MATTER!!

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Dont matter bro. Been begging for a pro to release a video like this for years. Lot of the new guys are catching upon the hype of their favorite archer chris bee elk fit mfjj. When they cant shoot. The issue i have with ranch fairy is he never mentioned that high foc isnt a cure all, how he tunes and setups a bow. Guys were coming in my shop think 200-600 grains up front was going to take them from a 4”-6” group @ 20 to 2” group at 20 and it dont work like that. Guys had severe target panic thinking foc was going to cure them of it. Or the process of aiming. Guys thinking well i got x single bevel and a 600 grain arrow i dont have to aim not shoot where ever i want.

Its like Paige Pierce said the other day most of yall cant shoot and worried about the wrong thing.

get good solid reps in each day. My best groups of shooting were on the months i shot every day. When i worked in the shop i shot my bow your bow your cousins bow and every time i shot i still practiced my fundamentals. One of the coolest shots ive done was robinhood back to backtwice with a $300 diamond infinite edge and a hostage rest.

Pick something stick with it and go shoot

 

If your fletching is spinning your arrow...then it is creating drag on the rear of the arrow. That is slowing it down to compensate for poor tuning or bow to arrow harmony.

In some of the slow motion videos you can see the increased spin. Is that really a good thing? Does a broadhead really need to be spinning? Bullets spin at 50,000 rpms to stabilize. Arrows are more likely to fly truer if they fly flat and stable. The shafts wobble at launch and do so in most hunting situations to impact. Traditional archers know this because we have to compensate for it.

Shooting 80 yards at a stationary target where 1/4 inch in grouping might mean a winning score in reality has nothing to do with hunting nor getting a broadhead to 80 yards.

I shoot straight fletching/vanes and spend my energies practicing to consistently hit a tennis ball at 40 yards because that is important to my success.

 

it’s a little long winded but worth a few minutes of time. I have to say it’s a reality check for me

 

@Matt PA just said the same thing bud 💯

 

The same arrow can spin either right or left off the same bow.

Spend more time practicing and less time worrying about things like arrow clocking.

 

very informative youtube video, by nock on archery, Dudley says it doesnt matter, he has proof by his shots at 70 meters, check it out

 

Ravin Hood for the win!

That Dudley vid is good advice.…though there will still be guys that don’t get it….floating their arrows instead of shooting- <face palm>

 

Ravin Hood for the win!

That Dudley vid is good advice.…though there will still be guys that don’t get it….floating their arrows instead of shooting- <face palm>

dud just mentioned that.