I know this has been covered many times BUT.... anyone see POI change with shoot-through mesh? I've been hunting with my 6 YO stepson out of an Ameristep blind using a muzzy 100 up front on my arrow. Last night I missed a big doe as the arrow dipped going through the mesh... 12 yards, shot right under her. Could have been me, could have hit something on the way.... hard to tell as it was 20 minutes after sunset. No, I had not shot through it before and I figured at 15 yards it shouldn't matter much (corn pile) and my bow is tuned for perfect arrow flight. But it sure seemed to dip... Do you have to make sure you're perpendicular to the mesh when you shoot? Anyone notice POI issue when going through the mesh at an angle? The windows on the blind tilt backwards a little and frankly are NOT stretched sure tight - which were it to impact flight would cause it to dip? Just wondering others experiences. I really don't want to lug a target all the way there to check. Yes, I should have.....
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I know this has been covered many times BUT.... anyone see POI change with shoot-through mesh? I've been hunting with my 6 YO stepson out of an Ameristep blind using a muzzy 100 up front on my arrow. Last night I missed a big doe as the arrow dipped going through the mesh... 12 yards, shot right under her. Could have been me, could have hit something on the way.... hard to tell as it was 20 minutes after sunset. No, I had not shot through it before and I figured at 15 yards it shouldn't matter much (corn pile) and my bow is tuned for perfect arrow flight. But it sure seemed to dip... Do you have to make sure you're perpendicular to the mesh when you shoot? Anyone notice POI issue when going through the mesh at an angle? The windows on the blind tilt backwards a little and frankly are NOT stretched sure tight - which were it to impact flight would cause it to dip? Just wondering others experiences. I really don't want to lug a target all the way there to check. Yes, I should have.....
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I shot a deer threw mesh about 10 years ago. At the time I'd read about doing it, knew I needed cut on contact broadhead to do so. When the time came, I had to shoot now threw the mesh OR let the deer leave. I decided to shoot and see if it was indeed true that it would work! The arrow went right where I aimed. The deer dropped in about 25 yards. It left a perfect outline of my Thunderhead broadhead in the mesh.
I practiced through my ground blind mesh and didn’t notice any POI at shots under 20 yards. Mesh needs to be tight tho and a cut on contact broadhead. Also better have your bow well tuned. Any misalignment as the arrow leaves the riser would cause inconsistent results.
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When we have arrow flight problems, one of the things we look for is arrow/fletching contact with something on the bow, so why will we shoot through a mesh window in a blind and expect no effect on arrow flight? I do realize that it should not effect it much, but contact with anything “can” cause a problem, being that this is the first time shooting through the mesh, maybe you need to do a little more work testing, but, at fifteen yards, I’m leaning toward shooter error.
Sorry, not trying to be ugly, but when I jack up a shot, I replay it over and over in my mind to try and figure it out so I can correct the problem, I usually look at myself first and work out form there.
Sorry, not trying to be ugly, but when I jack up a shot, I replay it over and over in my mind to try and figure it out so I can correct the problem, I usually look at myself first and work out form there.
Must be 90 deg to mesh and sharp heads most one and done heads are not that sharp out of box I use to think that they were but take one out and try to shave with it, good luck it wont !
I’ve arrowed about 10 deer through mesh in double bull blinds. All were 20 yards or less. If there was any deflection of the arrow, it was not noticeable. I’ll hopefully do it again next week.
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I can't believe anyone would ever shoot through anything when shooting at an animal. I know people have done it successfully but I've heard of many more who have had problems. You have to shoot this kind of broadhead, you have to be perpendicular to the mesh, you have to keep shots to within 20 yards etc etc. Why not just drop the mesh and shoot what you want, as far as you want and at whatever angle you need and on top of that, not have the possibility of a deflection? The upside is far outweighed by the potential downside. Maybe I'm a little more particular about it since I get so little time to hunt but if/when I get a chance at an animal, I'm not going to put more barriers up for myself that could ruin my only chance of the year.
I found that without the mesh the deer would see me and bail. The first thing they would do when walking into my feeder about 18 yds away was to look inside the blind. The mesh made it possible to hunt from the ground blind.
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the mesh does two things, at least. On my double bull blinds, it is camo, so you don’t have that “black” area that most deer will see as not normal. And the mesh conceals lots of your movement when drawing. That’s critical when you are at 10-20 yards at ground level. I mentioned above that I’ve arrowed about 10 from ground blinds. I use only fixed heads (regardless of where I hunt) and have had great success with Slick Trick, Magnus Stingers, and Iron Will.
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Could not agree more. I do a lot of hunting out of a blind and have never seen the need to use the mesh. It is the first thing that goes when I get a new blind.
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I understand the reason the mesh is there but if the deer are immediately looking into your blind, you need to move it and brush it in better. I know tons of people that hunt successfully out of blinds and none of them use the mesh to shoot through. I don't even use a blind and have killed and passed deer, including nice bucks, well within 10 yards. If the deer become educated, you have to change up what you're doing.
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Shooting through mesh WILL effect your arrow flight. There is no way it won’t. Anyone that has ever tried it can tell you that. Yes, I know people have killed deer by doing it, but I’ve also seen arrows dip and fishtail when shot through mess. Extend that shot past 20 yards, and you are asking for a long sad day. I’ve seen it happen 7 times in 5 years when I was called in with dogs to find a deer. Everytime, they said they shot through the mesh, and don’t know what happened. Afterwards, we tried it just to see..in every case, without the mesh, they were hitting what they shot at. With the mesh, it was off. Mix that with the adrenaline dump of seeing a good deer in front of you, and it’s just adding to problems that can happen. I had one person hit 3 deer badly shooting expandables through mess. He argued that the blind manufacturers said he could do it and it would be fine...you can’t argue with that kind of logic..
Billie, I won’t dispute your needing to track a lot of deer. You were there. But maybe the shooter not the mesh was at fault. Or maybe not. I’ve seen guys that could shoot nickels at 40 yards but get excited and miss 12” diameter vitals on a live deer. And shooting mechanicals through mesh, never tried it as I don’t shoot mechanicals, but it sounds like a terrible idea.
I agree the most likely answer is shooter error. Always is. It just seemed like SUCH a chip shot that when it went so low I started looking for something the arrow hit along the way. Only thing there was the mesh.
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Some would consider hitting an obstruction between the bow and intended target a type of "shooter error". The fact that it was placed there intentionally just makes it a bigger error.
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The BIGGEST mistakes people with tents do. First they don't set them up early enough, don't brush them in properly and they don't leave the windows open even if they aren't there. The last item is vital. Keep the windows closed when not there the deer get use to it. Open them when your there deer will pick up that black hole in a flash no matter how the blind is brushed in. They know their livkng room extremely well. You just changed it.
Dale B1, good points.
I set mine up early September, and hunt early/mid Nov. I leave the window closed, and have camo mesh over it when hunting, so no black hole. In my case, they don’t see a black hole, and the netting provides quite a bit of concealment when I draw on a deer at 5-20 yards. These methods have worked very well for me. Your results may be different.
I set mine up early September, and hunt early/mid Nov. I leave the window closed, and have camo mesh over it when hunting, so no black hole. In my case, they don’t see a black hole, and the netting provides quite a bit of concealment when I draw on a deer at 5-20 yards. These methods have worked very well for me. Your results may be different.
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