Same question! Do you look on the left side of the string or right side? If your right handed. Or when you shoot with both eyes open do you sorta look through the string??

 

Same question! Do you look on the left side of the string or right side? If your right handed. Or when you shoot with both eyes open do you sorta look through the string??

That's a good question. I shoot RH but use my left eye to aim with both open. I'm looking down the left side of the string

 

I use two anchors...a bomar nose button and a kisser.

 

I use a Bomar nose button also, no problems with accuracy for me.

 

I also shoot with both eyes open, but when I do I find I can't see the string. I have to close one eye, line up the string, and the open my eye back up and can't see the string any more.

As I said, I'm surprised with how accurate I am most of the time. But I do get more flyers without a peep than I did with one. And when I do get flyers, they are usually to the left (right handed shooter). This makes sense because I have been lining my string up tot he right of the peep. So if my aim drifts right, the string crosses in front of the pin and I can see it and correct. But if my aim drifts left, I don't see it because I can't see the string well when I have both eyes open. I feel like shooting this way would be even worse in low light. Which leads me to believe there is a better way to do it.

I have never tried using either a kisser or a nose button. I might try that just to see what happens

 

I had issues on my old bow with peep rotation. I gave up fighting and simply removed it and used a brass string nock as a kisser button for many years. This method worked perfectly fine for me, and I was able to shoot accurately out to 60yd, my max. Many people do not agree with my method, but it worked fine for me, possibly as a result of years of shooting archery and muscle memory.

My new bow has a peep, and a brass kisser, but honestly I have found no meaningful difference in accuracy as a result.

 

Simple. Build a rear sight pin.

Line up your rear sight pin (attached to sight bar) with front sight pin. Voila! Lined up for consistent left right, and your height of chin, height of eyeballs also lined up for consistent high-low.











Block of wood.
Drill 1/4-inch hole for a 1/4-inch bolt.
Take a paper clip and bend into shape. Hot melt the paper clip to block of wood.
Rotate block of wood to move tip of paper clip rear sight pin, up or down.
Turn bolt to move block of wood left to right, for rear paper clip sight pin windage.
Line up tip of rear sight pin (paper clip) just under your front sight pin.

If the rear sight pin does not line up with front sight pin, turn your head left to right, swing your bow arm, adjust your stance more open or more closed. Learn the FEEL of the same full draw posture.

If the rear sight pin does not line up with the front sight pin, lift your chin higher or lower your chin lower, until the rear sight pin lines up with the front sight pin. Works just like iron sights on a rifle.

 

N&B, similar to this.

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Whats the benefit of not using a peep

 

I’ve shot / hunted with a old timberline no peep for probably 15 + years and love it. Actually my wife and son does also. It’s basically a alignment aperture that lets you know if your torquing the bow. A newer version is the anchor sight , I didn’t like them as it was to large for me . I always hated using a peep sight especially in low light conditions. Here’s a photo on my bow you can see it mounted on the lower front of my sight bracket,

 

I’ve shot / hunted with a old timberline no peep for probably 15 + years and love it. Actually my wife and son does also. It’s basically a alignment aperture that lets you know if your torquing the bow. A newer version is the anchor sight , I didn’t like them as it was to large for me . I always hated using a peep sight especially in low light conditions. Here’s a photo on my bow you can see it mounted on the lower front of my sight bracket, View attachment 7328405 View attachment 7328406

Same here.. I love my no-peep! The no peep is is what started me down the peepless path around '04. Still have one on a few bows. It is an incredible training device and will show you very quickly if youre inducing any torque or of any inconsistencies in anchor or grip.

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Well, if this has entered your brain you might as well dive in head first. I did it years ago and I went with the hind sight which is a cheap version of a perry's no peep. Overall it worked ok for the year or so I used it but in the end I put back in a peep and to me there is no other choice.

Advantages of no peep:

1. it is a torque indicator
2. If you are to stupid to make a peep rotate correctly this is a huge advantage

Disadvantages:

1. you will not be as accurate
2. you are screwed in low light conditions when a nice buck shows up
3. The rear mount sight is beyond finicky and very minor changes are huge point of impact changes.

 

I also tried a hindsight and did not like it at all. I’m very very accurate with my no peep and it glows just as much as my pins in low light.

 

I have a question for those of you who shoot without a peep sight. Since I started shooting several years ago, I have always used a peep. Recently, I have been playing with my anchor and head position. For this I have removed my peep and have been shooting without it. I have been surprised by how accurate I can be without it.

My elevation is generally spot on, as long as my anchor is consistent. Pretty much all my misses are left/right. The peep allows me to be sure I am properly centered in my sight, I find I'm not able to do this effectively without it.

So my question is this. For those of you who shoot without a peep, how do you consistently line up your shot to avoid left/right misses? I can't line the string up with the pin, because then I can't see the pin (obviously) so what I have been trying to do is line up the string to one side of the pin. But I'm finding it's tricky to line it up always the same way, hence the lefts and rights. I've read several posts by people who shoot without a peep and say this method is better in low light. But this hasn't been my experience so far. Which means I must be missing something.

I don't think I will stick with with peepless shooting. But I have been having fun learning to shoot this way and always enjoy picking up new skills.

I use a tied kisser and tied nose button. I look down the left side it the string (right hand bow).
Pay attention to the string blur... keep that in the exact same spot.. edge of housing or riser or where ever it happens to be. Just keep it lined up the same. That should help cut down the left right misses.

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I've been shooting peepless for 12 years and I'm fine with it. When I first tried it out I thought it was easier than I expected so I never waivered about using a peep again. The best advice I can give to anyone wanting to try it is to make sure your anchor points are consistent. In a ideal hunting situation my longest shot I would take with confidence is 40 yards and my longest shots during practice sessions is 50 yards. I'm happy with how its worked out and see no need to change.

 

Years ago I shot compounds with fingers and a two pin sight no peep. I would put a brass nock on the string above where a peep would go and at full draw I would line it up with the top of my quiver you have to temporarily glance up to do this. This method worked but since then I moved on to a release and peep.

 

Not picking on you I'm trying to help the OP. The reason you probably gave up was that doesn't work well.........not enough reference points. That small brass nock as the only point of reference is too small (IMO) and leads to inconsistency. So instead of working on them you went to the peep. Nothing wrong with that and that's probably why most people do quit or never try it at all....it is much faster and easier to use a peep. But in time if you work on it you can be 95% as accurate without one........maybe even more.

But if you are comfortable right of the bat (like many of us) and you want to refine the skills then going to the peep won't help.

 

Just watched the Perry's No Peep demo video for the first time. Genius idea, but holy moly it's expensive

 

You are missing the left & right anchor point. I struggled with that for about a year. I'm not talking hitting a target or missing just a few inches left or right. For me it was a daily thing....IOW I would always group well my groups would just move left one day and right another etc etc.

I don't focus on the string at all........don't even see it or ignore it to the point I don't see it. Personally I think trying to use that is a mistake but maybe it works for others????

What you have to do to fix it the L&R is play around a find a way to build an anchor point that is repeatable. You have done that for the up & down so know do it for the L&R. For me the L&R was harder. But I found if I put the knuckle of my index finger in the ear lobe/Jaw pocket, the kisser button (I have to use) in the corner of my mouth and the string in the middle of my nose I ignore everything but the sight pin at that point........just put it where you want the arrow to go.

Fortunately I have a line on the under part of my nose (I had to find out what it's called) I guess it's a philtrum? Any way it's a grove in the underside of my nose that the strings sits in nicely...........lol

 

What about a huge peep? It helps you get the correct anchor but doesn't cut down on light. I've been playing around with a Hamskea aperture insert model knockoff and leaving out the aperture for a BIG hole. Seems to insure alignment. I need more practice to prove to myself it is the solution but so far so good and much less fiddly than a tiny holed peep.

 

your peep is the same as the rear sight on a rifle. consider,...a shot gun has a bead at the muzzle of the barrel and nothing on the reciever for alignment. your never sure of where your alignment is and it doesn't really matter because the shot spreads out to cover an area that would compensate for slight misalignment. a rifle has a rear sight because it fires only on projectile and it has to hit a relatively small area to be an efficient killer. bows are exactly the same with the added complexity that they don't have the energy a rifles has to produce hydraulic the shock that kills even if the projectile doesn't hit fully vital parts, so it is even more important on a bow to have that back sight.

 

your peep is the same as the rear sight on a rifle. consider,...a shot gun has a bead at the muzzle of the barrel and nothing on the reciever for alignment. your never sure of where your alignment is and it doesn't really matter because the shot spreads out to cover an area that would compensate for slight misalignment. a rifle has a rear sight because it fires only on projectile and it has to hit a relatively small area to be an efficient killer. bows are exactly the same with the added complexity that they don't have the energy a rifles has to produce hydraulic the shock that kills even if the projectile doesn't hit fully vital parts, so it is even more important on a bow to have that back sight.

Your concistant anchors are your rear sight

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Nose to string. Consistent anchor point at ear. Love the no peep shooting.

 

Perry no peep is a great idea, but one rear pin dont work good at longest range for me and pnp is expensive. I use low price 5 pin , rear mont , reverse pin, 25$ , and shoot long range with that. Always 2 pin alignement on target. Look this video

 

Use one of these...

 

This is only 30 yards (I think) but a friend either told me the broad heads he was using didn't group with his field tips and weren't good to another friend of mine.....or didn't trust broad head tuning so I sent them this video. Anyway it's a fixed head and a FT at 30 yards but I'm posting it here because not only can you stack arrows with no peep if you dedicate yourself in doing that but you can even stack fixed heads and FT's up as well.

The POI is still off a tad because sighting in the pin is the last thing I do after the FT & BH come together.

 

@deadquiet Thanks for the tips. As I stated earlier, I think that I will end up going back to using a peep. But for the moment I'm having fun finding out how well I can shoot without one. And my feeling is that the more consistent I can become without a peep, the better I will also shoot once I put it back in.

I'm going to try putting on a kisser and a nose button to play around with and see what that does

 

Trap shooter way back. I had my Trap gun fitted to me. stock length, comb, cant and Trap guns have a middle sight to align to the front sight. I was a pretty decent shot. Today's target shotguns have adjustable everything, even recoil systems that totally take the kick out.

My target rifles had adjustments for everything......One weighed 10 pounds with 4 rounds. My main target bow weighs a bit over 8 pounds.....

How many years have bows have been round, a few 100s, a few 1000? How many archers are competing or hunting without a peep today? 1 in 5000? 1 in 10,000? 1 in 100,000?

 

How many years have bows have been round, a few 100s, a few 1000? How many archers are competing or hunting without a peep today? 1 in 5000? 1 in 10,000? 1 in 100,000?

What, no reply?

 

and those adjustments on you target rifles were to put your eye in good alignment with,.....the peep,or center of the scope.

 

Yes sir.... Force is bad and force looking through a 24X scope ain't good.........

 

Where do u buy a no peep sight now

 

You don't need a special sight......just take the peep out. They make them but you don't need them if you work on the anchor.