Well my viper seat finally gave way. I was thinking of getting a replacement summit seat as I have always thought the viper was pretty comfy, but after reading some threads I see Slumper and Hazmore also fit the Viper. I mainly Bow hunt, but admit I don't like sitting so high in the stand I feel like I could fall out. Especially on those mornings I haven't had enough sleep. Ha Ha. I have done fine shooting out of the hanging Viper seat. That said I seen Slumper sales a seat that looks similar to the original Viper. It doesn't look like it folds/ segregated in three spots like the Viper seat, and I think it is narrower with a longer back. If I am reading the specs right. Was wandering if this would make it pack different. I don't care to add extra bulk or awkwardness. I would just hate to go away from the Summit seat if the Slumper doesn't pack as good. That said while looking I also saw the Slumper mesh which is interesting because it can still be adjusted, and has to pack easily. Also the Hazmore which people rave about, but my concern is it may sit too high for my liking. Anyhow I can not find many consumer reviews on the Slumper or Slumper mesh. Anyone have any real world reviews or suggestions? Thanks ahead of time!