FINALLY!! Holy cow, about time spot Hogg.. i love my HHA and couldn’t find anything close to it… maybe this one will have a chance..
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Spot Hogg boonie
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I'm running my FE XL in the second longest position, but I was considering the longest position for my pin gaps. My sight is everything I want, it's just too heavy. I did a couple mods to lighten it up, but it's not much. It's the triple stack.
The FE XL in the second longest position should still be longer than the Boonie in the longest position?
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I’m def ordering one up!!!
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I’ll check and get back to you, but I’m going to say it would still be 1/2”+ shorter.
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So until recently, Spot Hogg used to be 10-12 weeks out...any time I'd call they would be very far only.
Supposedly even built a larger machining plant to help with these and in the end it didn't change the lead times. They have been the only sight company I would have to program orders for. I could for HHA and black gold but usually I ordered enough during Sports inc shows etc to get what I need HHA has been 3-4 weeks for me and black gold before they released the dual trac was fairly quick. This comment wasn't directly directed to SH, but mostly to everyone in the archery community. Most companies know they are going to have demand...build a stockpile. PSE has tried to do this recently since the launch of the levitate...build up the most popular configurations and have it ready. The Mach 30 was at ata last year...they were planning to launch it but the Mach 34 had so much demand and hype Lonnie decided not to release it (wise and smart). They built up a stockpile and did not have enough backstock before launch but they did launch. I like how if you are a Mathews dealer you are required to take the preview pack whether it be both bows and all the accessories or one bow and all the accessories. They are in the hands of dealers on launch day regardless if you sell 50 bows or 1000 bows. As a consumer when I see that it has been released guess where I am going? To the stealership. Not saying you have to load your dealers with product...but based on store report one ought to know whos moving product and who aint. lets get them loaded and out to the dealers.
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1. You just said until recently they have been way out, but not recently. Then a couple lines later said that the bigger machine shop did nothing. This year has been the direct result of the increased capability, which you admitted has limited wait times. Covid caused sales to skyrocket beyond anything most companies could imagine… So your comments are kind of contradicting…
2. The Boonie is not fully production ready, hence the late ship dates. They had a choice to release it at the show or wait and do a mid year release. Had they waited, if I was a dealer I’d be mad. I’d spend my budget planning at the shows/early in the year, then get blindsided in June with a product that cut back sales on current product I’d have in stock and on order. The other option is to wait a full year. But it’s sometimes hard to justify the manufacturing and design costs associated with bringing a new product to market, and then not bring in any revenue from that product for almost 2 years from the start of the project.
As a dealer would you rather see a product released mid season if it’s not going to be full production ready by the ATA show?
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no im not mad about it. I’m glad they launched
Guess I’ll get my dates. Before Covid they were 12 weeks out I’m talking like 2017-2018. Then during Covid I want to say they opened the new facility and it didn’t change. Haven’t sold much spot Hogg since they aren’t a big seller (don’t think I’m knocking them just sell hha more)
I called like literally Monday of this year and was told 2 weeks.
wide gap. I’m not mad the sight will do well. I know several shops who have hundred a decent amount. Totally get what you are saying and sorry for the miscommunication
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Longest hole on the Boonie dovetail is about 3/4” shorter than the 2nd longest hole on the FEXL. Shortest setting is about 3/8” shorter than the shortest usable divot in the FEXL. The shortest divot on the FEXL you can’t use the lever as it hits the bow mount. There are 7 usable divots(3.5” of adjustment)in the FEXL and 5 usable divots(2.5” of adjustment) in the Boonie dovetail.
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That way if your arrow doesn’t do the job no need for a back up shot take your sight off and bash it in the head with your 8# sight to finish it off lol
It sounds like a great sight but perhaps not for me. I got all excited that it was a lighter FE XL. I like the new micro windage, and that they're thinking about weight finally. Let me ask this, other than length, what is the benefit of the FE XL over the Boonie? I don't see anything
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Length would be the biggest benefit if you truly wanted a longer sight. That said, Spot Hogg may offer longer bars down the road. If you got a boonie dovetail you could always upgrade to a longer bar later if they make one. If you go down that road, I would make sure to call them and ask about it. If they get enough requests from archers or dealers for a longer dovetail, they will most likely listen and offer one down the road. The fast eddie sights have gone through like 5 design changes on different components over the last 9ish years they have been making it, so I would expect as time goes on and they find things they can improve on the Boonie they will make them.
Personally, I also think NOT having a 1st axis is necessarily superior. I am probably in the minority for that, but here is why. If you don't have a 1st axis, and you have a sight that is designed properly with good quality control(Spot Hogg has both), then a 1st axis is really useless, unless you want to tilt the sight to your natural cant. THAT is the only benefit to having a 1st axis. Draw backs include more screws(generally more weight as steel is heavier than aluminum and carbon), and an extra piece of the sight to come loose(fail) or get set improperly. If it is all machined true and square and it is all one piece like the previous spot hogg models, it makes setup easier, and there is nothing to go wrong. The rail is literally milled into the bar, so your rail will be running true to the riser of your bow, so all you have to do is square up the pins to the rail and your 2nd axis is set and done.
Now I'm not saying that the 1st axis is a downgrade to the boonie either. They are using the same system that they have used for years with their 3rd axis which has proven to be the most reliable and durable 3rd axis on the market. So I don't see it being a problem or a weak point. But generally speaking, for most sights on the market, having all those extra pieces can be an added weak point to a sight where something can come loose, move, or break. Having that 1st axis though does allow someone to switch bars without having to completely disassemble and reassemble a sight, which Spot Hogg won't do for you... So in their line, what bar you buy, is the bar you are stuck with. So from that standpoint, that added 1st axis is a pretty substantial upgrade...
Sorry for the long winded response, but that is my personal feelings on the 1st axis subject. Some people feel very strongly that it is needed. To the point that I've seen people already say that they will finally try a Spot Hogg now that they offer a 1st axis and IMHO, it's not that big of a deal to write off the sight completely... Also just goes to show that what is important to one person, may not be important at all to the next person.
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The sight tape wheel not being removable on past models was the biggest detractor for me. SH makes nice stuff but I just prefer other products. If I can run multiple sight tapes on the same sight with just the swap of a wheel I might give them a look moving forward.
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It’s an option on everything but the triple stack.
I have a FE triple stack and love the sight. I do have a wishlist though that the housing was smaller and lighter. They have at least checked one item off by producing a lighter sight hopefully at some point they are able to reduce the size of the housing, but that’s another topic.
Pretty slick that they are now able to have a removable sight wheel and be beneficial for those who want to use two arrow setups and or drop poundage for winter/summer practice and don’t want to have to sight back in.
While I won’t be swapping it out on my current bow I will be looking very hard at a boonie for my next bow.
Pretty slick that they are now able to have a removable sight wheel and be beneficial for those who want to use two arrow setups and or drop poundage for winter/summer practice and don’t want to have to sight back in.
While I won’t be swapping it out on my current bow I will be looking very hard at a boonie for my next bow.
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