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I to can't comment on the havoc , but the super tec I can . I have one set on around 58 # shooting a 28.5 inch 400 lightspeed wighing in at 305 gn . and this thing is poking our 310 fps , I have to wind the sucker son or get heavier arrows as we are limited to 300 fps .

I am still learning the bow but already am holding a 5 inch group at 60 yds with it .

Have been shooting it with pins , but think I am going back to my scope , can't get used to pins .

I am very impressed with everything this bow is .Just make sure you get your draw length right when you order it .
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