Both are great sight. I believe the SH is a little tough though. Personally between those two it’s a tough one. Bright pins good CS hard to go wrong with either

 

Have owned mbg and spot hogg. The spot Hogg is much more robust, and the mrt is an excellent feature. Spot hogg gets my vote

 

Black Gold is lighter (except the Pro models are almost as heavy as Spot Hogg), has great pins, but the vertical adjustment is trash.

Spot Hogg is a couple ounces heavier, pins are good but not quite as crisp as the Black Gold, vertical adjustment rail is excellent, built like a tank.

Both companies have great warranties and great customer service. I prefer Spot Hogg. The Boonie is a better sight than the Fast Eddie in several ways.

 

While I have handled some, I don't own an SH sights but I have owned multiple MGB sight and I'm currently running a MGB sight.

Both have great build quality and customer service. Whether you're looking for a fixed pin, a slider, single pin or multiple pins, hard mounted or dovetail, course adjust or micro adjust, both have something for you.

Me personally, I'm not a fan of the large bright sight housing face of the SH sights. I don't mind a sight face with a contrasting color ring but for me, the face on the SH sights is just too much. Plus, for sliders, I prefer my tape be on the inside of the sight as opposed to the outside of it. Again, I don't know that you can make a bad choice between those two.

 

While I have handled some, I don't own an SH sights but I have owned multiple MGB sight and I'm currently running a MGB sight.

Both have great build quality and customer service. Whether you're looking for a fixed pin, a slider, single pin or multiple pins, hard mounted or dovetail, course adjust or micro adjust, both have something for you.

Me personally, I'm not a fan of the large bright sight housing face of the SH sights. I don't mind a sight face with a contrasting color ring but for me, the face on the SH sights is just too much. Plus, for sliders, I prefer my tape be on the inside of the sight as opposed to the outside of it. Again, I don't know that you can make a bad choice between those two.

If the MRT rings bother you, odds are you are not setting them up correctly and you are not getting the benefit of them. The benefit isn’t the big bright rings being easier to see. As it seems you found out, that actually makes things worse if you can see all the bright rings. This is a common thing we see and I’d like to shed some light on proper setup. Without proper setup, you most likely won’t like the rings, and you are not getting the benefit that they where developed to give the archer.

Set them up so in bright sunlight, on a clear sky day, outside in the direct sun, so you can just barely see a sliver of the inside ring. If you are seeing more than the single inside ring in those conditions, you are not setup properly. Move the sight in closer to the riser, or go to a smaller peep so you can only see the inside yellow ring and none of the extra rings in bright light. Then in brighter conditions you see the same sight picture as any other sight, but you get the great contrast between the dark peep and bright rings, which make centering extremely fast and precise. In lower lighting, your pupil dilates and you will visually start seeing more rings through your peep. At last light, you will then see all the rings. Always giving you a precise peep alignment.

Set them up properly, and they are going to help archers shoot better as they have more precise centering. No gimmicks, no marketing bs, you will be more consistent day in and day out and regardless of the lighting conditions. But the setup is critical, and unfortunately many don't know or don't take the time to setup the peep and housing per our recommendation, which really makes or breaks the MRT rings effectiveness and whether it's overwhelming or not.

 

It’s a weird thing for me to say but I’ve had 2 black gold sliders go back for bad gears in the actual slider. I’ve owned a fast Eddie, HHA tetra and a Trophy ridge trio in between 3 black gold sliders I always end up back with black gold sights. Pin brightness without a light I think is what puts em on my hunting bows (no electronics on bows in Idaho). Couple that with the adjustable 2nd pin on my dual trac I just stay loyal. That said I wish they never sold to that conglomerate a few years back, seeing how the other companies innovate makes me wish black gold would dump so more funds in R&D. I think a lot about the new axcel slider and dialed pruf sights more and more. If wasn’t doing a new rifle and scope this year I think I would give another company a chance but still hold onto my dual trac just in case….

 

I personally really like the MRT rings on the Spot Hoggs and don't care for the sight rings on the Black Gold, but for me the two biggest things I don't like on the Black Gold are the tiny sight tapes that are hard to read and the delrin slide rail. If they'd use a regular geared rail like SH and HHA it would be a MUCH better sight.

 

I have Black Gold Ascent Slider sights for years and never had a problem with any of them. They don't weight as much as a Spot Hogg does which is a big plus to me.

 

I have the mountain ascent verdict, and my 14 has the whitetail 3 pin sliders, both have been rock solid for us.

 

I have a MBG Pro Hunter and it just works. I see a lot of hype around the dialed or UV sights and remember I have a sight that is rock solid.

 

I have been a black gold guy for years. Went to a fast Eddie for a couple years and sold it. Love everything about black gold. CS, pins are the best, and everything else. I’ve never had an issue except with one I bought used on here and they fixed it for free. Favorite is the ascent whitetail single pin. Big dog housing with a pic mount. I won’t be changing.

 

I never said you don’t know how to setup a bow… I’m not sure where you got that and then got defensive. My comment was in no way saying you don’t know how to setup a bow or shoot.

If the MRT rings bother you, odds are you are not setting them up correctly and you are not getting the benefit of them. The benefit isn’t the big bright rings being easier to see. As it seems you found out, that actually makes things worse if you can see all the bright rings. This is a common thing we see and I’d like to shed some light on proper setup. Without proper setup, you most likely won’t like the rings, and you are not getting the benefit that they where developed to give the archer.

Set them up so in bright sunlight, on a clear sky day, outside in the direct sun, so you can just barely see a sliver of the inside ring. If you are seeing more than the single inside ring in those conditions, you are not getting the benefit of them, and I’ll be the first to tell you that most likely, you will not like them. Then in brighter conditions you see the same sight picture as any other sight, but you get the great contrast between the dark peep and bright rings, which make centering extremely fast and precise. Then in low lighting, you pupil dilates and you will visually start seeing more rings through your peep. At last light, you will then see all the rings. Always giving you a precise peep alignment.

Set them up properly, and they are going to help you shoot better. No gimmicks, no marketing bs, you will be more consistent day in and day out and regardless of the lighting conditions, your consistency and accuracy will improve. But the setup is critical.

Not sure where I got the notion that you were saying I didn't know how to set a bow up or that I wasn't setting bows up properly/correctly, huh? Gee, I can't imagine where I got that idea from...

My shop is merely a humble home shop, not "awesome," but I see what you tried to do there. When you stop by to see my humble "home shop," we'll also go over some salesmanship and representation tips I've picked up over the years of working in the industry. You know, purely for educational purposes.

 

We see this literally every week, people don’t take the time to set their peep so they can only see the inside ring and to do it in the brightest lighting conditions possible. It’s extremely common mistake, many don’t know that you’re not supposed to see all the rings. That was my entire point was to make sure that was how you set it up. Again, it’s a common thing, I’m only trying to help. I’m not in sales, I don’t claim to be a salesman.

In those bolded lines you show, I was specifically talking about how to setup your peep to our rings, and yes as I have tried to say over and over, it is something that many people overlook and don't understand, because it is different setup process than any other sight on the market. Your home shop, has very little to do with understanding and knowing how to get your peep to housing sizing correct and in what lighting to do it in. So yes, once again, you took my comment out of context and took it as derogatory, and it was not meant in that way at all. Not once have you said, yes, that is exactly how I set it up, I still didn't like it. If that is the case, that is 100% ok. I've got no issues with that if that was the case.

PS about 1 out of about every 4 people I talked to at ATA, a dealer and industry show, still didn’t understand the reasoning of the MRT rings or never heard of our recommendation on how to set it up. So yes, when I read comments that sound like it may be a setup thing, I try to say something. Again, sorry you took it personally. Have a great day.

 

Yes. Black Gold. Ascent Verdict has been on many falls down the mountain side and into a creek, off deadfall etc it still lives. Some argue the weight of the SH isn’t that much more, I’ve tried it, feels like a boat anchor.

 

Go black gold, fast Eddie is heavy and bulky. Also has open gears and gets dirty. Black gold is light, simple and higher quality even though I do like spot hogg.

 

Never owned a spot hogg, but i love my whitetail ascent verdict 3 pin slider, solid sight with no issues at all, even woth busting thru brush and a couple falls.

 

I love my SH. Looking to get the new Boonie.

 

I've have a Hogg-It, Fast Eddie, Tommy, and Boonie and the Boonie is my favorite. Before that the Tommy was my favorite, and would still be my choice if I was just shooting 3D/Target with it, but the Boonie is a better hunting sight, IMO.

 

I have both black gold and spot Hogg.
I have a custom dual track and the fast Eddie.

I like dual track the most. I have the top pin as a .019 and bottom pin at .010. The way the dual track bottom pin adjust I get way more distance with it. A A little more than 20 yards.

I hate how much dirt gets into the wheel gear on the fast Eddie too.

 

I have 3 on bows now, one of the best sights out,they also have a great customer service also. The top 3 sights Spot hogg, MBG, HHA.

 

I'd go SH. The Boonie is solid. I will try MBG again when they fix their elevation rails.

 

The MFJJ said his piece on that maybe it’ll be enough haha

 

I’ve used the black gold and had a really good experience with it. Easy to tune very durable!

 

I have the Black Gold Pro hunter HD 3 pin, works gret bright pins, unlike others on here I have not had to worry about their warranty or customer service.

 

I sent a broken (stripped) Mountain Lite to them recently. bought it here, used.
Also had the standard green-red-yellow pins. I asked if the pins could be changed to all green for a fee?
Got it back yesterday. Looks like new, with all green pins to boot! Also a new pack of sight tapes.
No charge.
Great CS.

 

I have a dual track pro on a pic mount. It's a great sight. I have no issues with it at all. Easy to setup, easy to use. Pins are bright and you can set the gap to whatever you like.