Well, I think your view is a little narrow minded.johnno said:I don't understand why you would not use a peep...to my knowledge all Olympic archers use a peep as do most of the professional target shooters...In the quest for accuracy in shooting regardless if your passion is bowhunting or target.. the choice seems obvious...:wink:
I totally agree. The main thing that is needed with these devices is practice and trust. The real secret to using these devices is the have them set to your "natural" draw and hold. Once you trust the device you can look at it and then aim and shoot. If my eyes notice is again, they are doing it subconciously. You can also do this much faster than trying to get a peep and pin lined up.fishen_soon said:I have had a Timberline No-Peep on my bow for 3 years now and love it. I used to use a regular peer with a tube, but with age my eyes could not see well in dusk conditions. I would think that the No-Peep is not as acurate as a string peep, but I can get 4" groups out to 40 yards which is more than I need. When I first put the No-Peep on, I would check it on every shot. Now I just check it every 2nd. or 3rd. shot in practice, and is normally right on. The No-Peer takes a little to set up, but once set, you can forget adjusting again. I have never tried the Hind Sight so can not comment on it. If you want it for hunting and take only 20 or 30 yard shots, the No-Peep works fine.
Deezlin said:Well, I think your view is a little narrow minded.
I do both hunting and target shooting. I do 3D, Indoors and FITA shooting. I have three longer axle to axle bows for target shooting and a short A2A for hunting and tree stand work.
The difference between target shooting and hunting is like night and day. The target bow is setup to shoot a very small target at a distance, this requires pin point accuracy. Especially, with the Olympic type shooting and the great distances involved. They use special arrows and low poundage too. All forms of target archery have a few things in common. They are usually shot under good lighting conditions; the targets are stationary and they are all trying to achieve a pin point accuracy.
Hunting on the other hand is usual done in low light conditions. The shot needs to be accurately placed, but it does not need to be precisely placed and the target can suddenly move or an object may interfere with the shot.
Now many people think the best way to kill with an arrow is in the heart. It isn't. The preferred shot in a double lung shot. The animal will actually expire faster because it will bleed out faster if the pump is still going.
So, in a hunting shot being able to maintain a 4 to 6 inch group is more important than pin point accuracy. The main think a hunter has to do to be successful is to identify the area he need to hit to be able to double lung the quarry and be able to execute the shot.
I have used a peep for hunting, I've used them with tubes and without tubes. If you have a good string the without tubes are better. But, they can also be problematic and not necessary reliable with temperature changes.
Hunting is a differant style of shooting than any target shooting including 3D. Shots are usually performed from elevated stands at twilight conditions.I switched and started using a No-Peep a couple of years ago. I increased my hunting draw length by using a caliper and removing the D-loop and am shooting directly off the string. I am currently using the Anchor Sight and feel is is superior to the No-Peep in all regards. I don't ever plan on installing another peep on a hunting bow.A peep severally restricts your vision.
Are these devices as accurate as a peep. In close range less than 50 yards I believe they are or at least could be. Now, I don't buy the fact that Olympic and other target archers don't use them as a valid reason they don't work. The reason is quite simple actually. These archers have always used a peep and if they weren't good with it, they wouldn't be were they are!!
There are several ways to not use a peep and retain accuracy, but the Anchor Sight and No-Peep are better on a hunting bow for many reasons.
For me...YES! I've been shooting with both eyes for 20 years. Now with my advanced age, vision through the peep is getting difficult on the dominant eye. I find myself having to close one eye, then re-open it after the brain starts working.jray57 said:Even when shooting with BOTH eyes open?