I haven't shot them, but my father has. He likes them. The insert/outsert is ok, not to my taste, but he hasn't had an issue with them. He has shot them into trees and wood planks and hasn't damaged any of the shafts but he has lost the inserts from them. I was impressed that he only lost the insert and field point with absolutely no damage to the shafts, all he needs to do is get more inserts and continue shooting. They have a nice silent coating on them that is rather quiet, compared to my GT Velocity. If they weren't so heavy in 300 spine, I would absolutely try them. They do penetrate well, a lot better than my old Beman ICS Hunters, and he was shooting 10# lower than I was with an older bow! :angry: