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Hello all! This is my first post here :)
Can you please suggest me vanes for my 3,2 carbon arrows? I shoot outdoors and my set up is: recurve bow, at 70m target, 900 spine 26" arrows, 28.5 (soon to be 30) lbs draw weight. I currently use spin wing vanes 1 3/4, but I would like to try something else.
I am considering Gas Pro GP-200 Spin Vanes.
Thank you!
 
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Welcome. After a while you kinda realize they all do the same thing. The only possible concern is weight.
If you're happy with what you have, use them. In other words, what kind of benefits are you looking for?

Viper1 out.
 
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I generally use WAV or WAV Pro, and occasionally AAE Trad and feathers... I can't free hand spin wings and never really took the time to figure out my Wing Thing, so these for me were just easier.

While at the Olympic level many are running the original spin wings, Viper is right above and most of us won't see much of a difference between similar spec'ed vanes, so pick what you like and run with them.
 
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Viper1 said:
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Welcome. After a while you kinda realize they all do the same thing. The only possible concern is weight.
If you're happy with what you have, use them. In other words, what kind of benefits are you looking for?

Viper1 out.
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Hello and thank you so much for your reply! I am looking for something more durable from spin wing vanes, however light (as my draw weight is really low)
 
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You won’t get a vane that performs better than a Spin Wing - it is the base line by which all curly vanes are measured. In my own experience the Korea Archery Jet 6 is the closest rival - it is a bit less fragile (but not a lot less fragile). For your setup probably a 1.75”. (This is the new style one, not the older KSL vane). Looking at the international level archers it is a popular choice there too.

Spider is also a good choice - I found the soft ones OK but prefer the Jet6. The stiffer Spider is more durable but for me does not work as well.

Eli vanes are probably the most robust - some people love them, others have problems. I found them very hard to predict in wind.

XS Wings also pretty poplar. These are at the more robust end but the set I had got very fragile in very cold weather. YMMV. May just be me, may be because I was VERY close on clearance, may be the colour (neon yellow).

Archery isn’t a popularity contest but Gas Pros have been around for a long time but they never seem to make a lot of traction. I don’t know if that is result driven or marketing driven. Rick Van Der Ven of the Netherlands was using them for quite a long time (I think he had a collaboration/signature vane).

Overall, if you really fancy Gas Pros it is cheap enough to try and then reverse the decision if they don’t work out.

Stretch
 
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For me it's elivane p3 all the way.
  • Group as well as spinwings for me (I shoot 610 to 630 on a wa70m round. I imagine better archers than me will be able to identify small differences in performance that I can't pick up)
  • low profile, so fewer clearance issues than some other brands
  • substantially more robust than any other spin type vane I've tried (original spinwings, kurly vanes, spider vanes and xs wings. I've not tried other brands). Last winter I did the entire indoor season with one set of arrows (c. 8k shots), including occasional shots through the clicker, a couple of passthroughs and lots of arrow-clattering groups. Didn't have to replace even a single fletching.
 
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I just tried the GasPros and my impressions have been:
positives: look cool, nice long tails to tape down, fly just as well as Kurly or SpinWings
negatives: the supply of double-sided tape and tip-and-tail tape was a little slim, both were very hard to peel off their paper backing, and the vanes proved to be quite brittle. I read someone's review that they had great experience with them, noting specifically that they survived being shot through the clicker. My experience was the opposite. They ripped or cracked if they came in contact with the rest or clicker.

This could be something about the particular package I got.
 
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Ultra light weight and durable... I'm surprised more don't run feathers; 3 2" feathers weigh less than 4gns; and while spin wings advertise to be in that weight range, it often doesn't include the weight of the tapes. While most tape on feathers, you save a bit of weight by gluing them on. I don't know if there is an issue out to 70m, I don't compete out to that distance; and some will complain about wet weather performance, but I've found that with a little prep I haven't had any issues when I run them...
 
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"TheBlindArcher" said:
Ultra light weight and durable... I'm surprised more don't run feathers; 3 2" feathers weigh less than 4gns; and while spin wings advertise to be in that weight range, it often doesn't include the weight of the tapes. While most tape on feathers, you save a bit of weight by gluing them on. I don't know if there is an issue out to 70m, I don't compete out to that distance; and some will complain about wet weather performance, but I've found that with a little prep I haven't had any issues when I run them...
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All good and dandy until the rain starts. I didn’t receive the arrows before competition and I had to use the ones I had with feathers - I used them my indoor that season. 50m barebow in summer rain / showers on and off it is an interesting experience: protect the feathers with a bag and swing hard the arrows to shed the water back from target to the shooting line. Being bareshaft tuned at 50m was the saviour of that day. For trad, up to 30m feathers are a viable option. After that is anything not feathers.
 
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All good and dandy until the rain starts. I didn’t receive the arrows before competition and I had to use the ones I had with feathers - I used them my indoor that season. 50m barebow in summer rain / showers on and off it is an interesting experience: protect the feathers with a bag and swing hard the arrows to shed the water back from target to the shooting line. Being bareshaft tuned at 50m was the saviour of that day. For trad, up to 30m feathers are a viable option. After that is anything not feathers.
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Fortunately my competition distance is limited to 30m; I really didn't notice a real problem with feathers in the rain, the brand I use is supposed to already be treated but I'll add a treatment when I know it's going to be wet. Then a quick slap on the leg before nocking and it seems to go no better or worse for me.
 
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I found the AAE WAV vanes to be extremely durable. I have two sets of arrows with both those and xs wings. I use the set with vanes when I’m messing around with tunings and different equipment changes. They’ve held up really well and all still look like the day I fletched them.
 
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For me this answer is easy
If the Archer has zero risk of putting an arrow in to the dirt - go with a spinwing style vane - they will spin / stabilize the arrow faster that any glue on vane set at 3 degree helical

If the Archer puts the occasional arrow in to the dirt - AAE wave set at 3 degrees (about the max helical possible with a .166 shaft)

Spin wing style vanes are destroyed with the first ground impact but I have seen Archers put the same arrow with AAE waves into the ground dozens of times and the vanes are still almost perfect.
 
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UK_Stretch said:
You won’t get a vane that performs better than a Spin Wing - it is the base line by which all curly vanes are measured. In my own experience the Korea Archery Jet 6 is the closest rival - it is a bit less fragile (but not a lot less fragile). For your setup probably a 1.75”. (This is the new style one, not the older KSL vane). Looking at the international level archers it is a popular choice there too.

Spider is also a good choice - I found the soft ones OK but prefer the Jet6. The stiffer Spider is more durable but for me does not work as well.

Eli vanes are probably the most robust - some people love them, others have problems. I found them very hard to predict in wind.

XS Wings also pretty poplar. These are at the more robust end but the set I had got very fragile in very cold weather. YMMV. May just be me, may be because I was VERY close on clearance, may be the colour (neon yellow).

Archery isn’t a popularity contest but Gas Pros have been around for a long time but they never seem to make a lot of traction. I don’t know if that is result driven or marketing driven. Rick Van Der Ven of the Netherlands was using them for quite a long time (I think he had a collaboration/signature vane).

Overall, if you really fancy Gas Pros it is cheap enough to try and then reverse the decision if they don’t work out.

Stretch
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Thank you so much for your really helpful reply!
 
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In many years of shooting, I have probably tried everything. I can tell you that a while back, a gust of wind caused a miss and one of my 4mm arrows (Carbon One) managed to burrow deeply into the grass and I was unable to find it. Someone else, using a metal detector did find it and I was shocked that although slightly distorted, the Spider vanes on it are still useable. I prefer original Spin Wings (1-3/4) because I do a fair amount of shooting in the house at close range and the Spin Wings stabilize faster than the Spiders. I have never found anything that stabilizes as quickly for small arrows. For normal indoor shooting, I use X7's with 4" feathers.
 
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