I got tired of messing with bent half outs or outserts sets getting damaged and went to standard diameter or 6 mm arrows played with spartan 6mm and vf tko last year both are great thinking sticking with the vf tko will be my final choice just for ease of a lighted nock. Really easy to pull from targets as well.

 

Why not just buy iron will components for the VAPs? I have a omnia ordered and this is one of the arrow options im considering.

 

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Bought a new Elite Omnia, 68lbs @ 28" DL. Current arrow setup are Victory VAP TKO's (300 spine) with the following rough specs.
27.25" Length
175 grains upfront (125 grain point/50 grain shok TL insert)
25 grain Nockturnal Nock
467 grains total arrow weight
13.5% foc
6.9 grains per/lb.

Thinking about switching to VF TKO's also 300 Spine with the following specs
26.75" Length (can go shorter since there is collar)
197 grains upfront (125 grain point, 22 grain insert, and 50 grain screw in weight)
503 grains total arrow weight
14.79% foc
7.4 grains per/lb

Thinking about VF's due to it being a standard diameter arrow and getting tired of messing with collars, hidden inserts, half outs and etc. Would you switch to a standard diameter or keep the smaller diameter arrow. Most shots will be 50 yards or less on deer, elk, pigs or pretty much any American game besides moose, brown or grizzly bears. Both specs show to be optimal on archer's advantage.


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I recently made the switch from small diameter arrows to the VF TKO arrows. I am very pleased. Excellent arrows that tuned beautifully. The VF TKO is also pretty cheap in comparison to mose small diameter shafts. I think they are like $12 per shaft for the Elites at Lancaster. Compared to $18 for the VAP TKO.

My local shop sells the VF TKO at $160 per dozen for factory fletched and he cuts them.

My arrow setup looks like this.

300 spine VF TKO Elite 27.375" carbon to carbon
Bohning Blazer double lock nocks
100 grain Gold tip brass inserts
125 grain heads.

TAW is 520 grains and FOC is 19.1%. getting 276 from my Omnia at 72# and 29".

Seems to me the standard diameter arrows are less finnicky when tuning.

 

Standard diameter for me. I just got a dozen VF TKO shafts in from Lancaster.

 

Would you switch to a standard diameter or keep the smaller diameter arrow.

I have "skinny" arrows, and standard diameter arrows, and have shot deer with both over the last few years. Even with my 50lb class bows, there is no significant difference on deer.
The extra cost of the small diameter arrows, the inserts that are expensive and prone to pulling out on a tough target, etc. Not worth the time, or money.

 

You mention RIP in the title, but are shooting a VAP? I think the VAP is a "micro" diameter, not small.

Check out the RIP XV. It's a small diameter, has the Shok insert system, lower GPI, so you can save some arrow weight and help FOC.

My build, as an example-
Victory RIP XV
29" carbon to carbon
SHOK stainless 60g insert
125g tip
6" wrap
Bohning Heat vanes
Deepower lighted nock - lighter than Nocturnal
This is a TAW of around 473g with a FOC right around 15g. I can throw a 20g weight in the front, and still be under 500g and increase FOC to almost 18%.

BT

 

You mention RIP in the title, but are shooting a VAP? I think the VAP is a "micro" diameter, not small.

Check out the RIP XV. It's a small diameter, has the Shok insert system, lower GPI, so you can save some arrow weight and help FOC.

My build, as an example-
Victory RIP XV
29" carbon to carbon
SHOK stainless 60g insert
125g tip
6" wrap
Bohning Heat vanes
Deepower lighted nock - lighter than Nocturnal
This is a TAW of around 473g with a FOC right around 15g. I can throw a 20g weight in the front, and still be under 500g and increase FOC to almost 18%.

BT

Yep, meant the RIP TKO's....and a very similar build to mine other than the length. Thinking about adding the 20g weight to bring up the FOC from 13.5% to just over 15% and keeping the weight under 500 grains. Should end up in the 480-490 range with the added weight.