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Thank`s for the sites. I check into this stuff pretty regularly. If I am not mistaken, Kentucky has put more bucks into B&C in the last 5 years than any other state. They have a ways to go to catch Illinois or Wisconsin though.
 

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Yep we've been racking "pun intended" them up here in the Bluegrass state over the past few years....Big Country was right...I do believe KY has entered more in the past 5 years than anywhere else in the US....Our game dept. has been working pretty hard on getting a good mature buck heard going over the past few years & it's really paying off..........I hope to have one for P&Y by the end of the season myself.......
 

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J-Daddy,

I know your "archery in schools": program is doing well and the state is trying to get more bowhutners.

Question - You all are limited to one buck by any means, Don't you think it would benefit bowhunting tremendously in that state if there was a two buck limit with a requirement that one being taken with a bow and the other with a firearm??

Any movement afoot by your archery organizations to make that happen??
 

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Hey Willie, yeah our archery in schools programs really seems to be a hit so far....I hope it only gets bigger & better.....
As far as our 1 buck limit goes a year, thats the way it is i honestly think that's the way it will stay for a few years....I really dont mind the limit myself, I mean if you shoot a buck that gets alot of gorund shrinkage then I can see where it sucks but I never shoot anything anyway...LOL........ Only way I personally see KY going to a 2 buck limit per year would be if they kinda did it like this= "shoot any legal antlered deer for your first one, but your second one must be atleast 15" spread".....KY is useing that 15" spread limit on ALOT of the WMA's now & it seems to really be helping them out alot......But to be honest with ya, I dont really see them going to the 2 buck limit anytime soon....Years & Years ago, like in the early to mid 80's they had a 2 buck limit and my god at the number of little 1 1/2 & 2 1/2 year old deer that got killed during rifle season........
As far as any bowhunting org. working on getting the limit raised, I havent heard of any but it might be happening.....
 

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Anyone who knows anything about comparing one thing to another knows that you need to factor in ALL variables when comparing. You just don’t look at one number and say “That’s it”. There are lots of other factors to consider such as including genetics, habitat, population of the deer herd and last but not least the number of hunters out there hunting the deer. Genetics and habitat are debatable, but we all know that God did not create all deer and deer habitat alike.

Now a few of the factors that are verifiable are number of entries in the B & C and P & Y books, the number of hunters in a given state, and the estimated population of the deer herds in those states. You have to get inside those numbers to have any semblance of comparison. In other words, the larger the deer herd with the more hunters after them the greater the chance of killing a record book buck, if all other things were equal.

Here is a comparison of record book bucks as opposed by the number of hunters and estimated populations. All hunter and population numbers were acquired from an ESPN Deer website at http://espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/s/h_hunting_forecast_launch_page_03.html. The B & C and P & Y entry numbers were acquired at - http://www.remington.com/magazine/consv/2002_0502a.htm#state

WISCONSIN – 3,398 entries. 427,871 deer hunters for a rate of .0079416 record book buck per hunter (Rank 1). Deer population – 1,600,000 with rate of .00212237 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 4)

ILLINOIS – 2,641 entries. 334,230 deer hunters for a rate of 0079017 record book buck per hunter (Rank 2). Deer population – 700,000 with rate of .0037728 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 2)

IOWA – 1,586 entries. 314,454 deer hunters for a rate of .0050436 record book buck per hunter (Rank 4). Deer population – 250,000 with rate of .0063440 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 1)

OHIO – 1,077 entries. 660,000 deer hunters for a rate of .0016318 record book buck per hunter (Rank 6). Deer population – 575,000 with rate of .0018730 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 5)

MINNESOTA – 875 entries. 570,000 deer hunters for a rate of .0015350 record book buck per hunter (Rank 7). Deer population – 1,140,000 with rate of .0007675 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 7)

KANSAS - 781 entries. 104,658 deer hunters for a rate of .0074624 record book buck per hunter (Rank 3). Deer population – 320,000 with rate of .0024406 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 3)

TEXAS – 739 entries. 619,784 deer hunters for a rate of .0011923 record book buck per hunter (Rank 9). Deer population – 3,826,146 with rate of .0001931 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 10)

MISSOURI – 718 entries. 525,000 deer hunters for a rate of .0013676 record book buck per hunter (Rank 8). Deer population – 1,000,000 with rate of .0007180 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 8)

MICHIGAN – 636 entries. 1,076,745 deer hunters for a rate of .0005906 record book buck per hunter (Rank 10). Deer population – 1,900,000 with rate of .0003347 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 9)

INDIANA – 587 entries. 270,700 deer hunters for a rate of .0021684 record book buck per hunter (Rank 5). Deer population – 450,000 with rate of .0013044 record book buck percentage of the population. (Rank 6)

RANKINGS

Percentage of record book bucks by hunters:

1) Wisconsin
2) Illinois
3) Kansas
4) Iowa
5) Indiana
6) Ohio
7) Minnesota
8) Missouri
9) Texas
10) Michigan

Percentage of record book bucks by deer population:

1)Iowa
2)Illinois
3)Kansas
4)Wisconsin
5)Ohio
6)Indiana
7)Minnesota
8)Missouri
9)Michigan
10)Texas
 

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I looked at it this way also. Number of entries per harvest. Since I do not have harvest figures for the last ten years I just multiplied the harvest number given by the ESPN page by ten. I’m sure there were some ups and downs, but this should give a good idea.The "rate" would mean for Illinois every 577.38 deer killed a record book deer was taken AND registered.Of course we all know that not every record class animal is registered for various reasons, but NO ONE has a handle on that one.

ILLINOIS – 2,641 entries. 1,524,870 harvest for a rate of 577.38 (Rank 1)

IOWA – 1,586 entries. 1,366,550 harvest for a rate of 861.63 (Rank 2)

KANSAS - 781 entries. 870,000 harvest for a rate of 1113.96 (Rank 3)

WISCONSIN – 3,398 entries. 3,862,770 harvest for a rate of 1136.78. (Rank 4)

OHIO – 1,077 entries. 1,651,240 harvest for a rate of 1533.18 (Rank 5)

INDIANA – 587 entries. 1,031,630 harvest for a rate of 1757.46 (Rank 6)

MINNESOTA – 875 entries. 2,220,500 harvest for a rate of 2537.71 (Rank 7)

MISSOURI – 718 entries. 2,633,280 harvest for a rate of 3667.52 (Rank 8)

TEXAS – 739 entries.4,369,490 harvest for a rate of 5912.71 (Rank 9)

MICHIGAN – 636 entries. 4,637,060 harvest for a rate of 7290.98 (Rank 10)
 
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