So question for the hunting public. Who agrees or disagrees with what Matt Rinella says about the Public hunting figures on the interwebs!
Who agrees or disagrees with Matt Rinella
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Agree 100%
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I’m not even going to read the post on this thread.
I stopped at “jealous brother” and that was enough. I’m literally Matt’s neighbor. Like right next door. Amazing how people throw garbage around when they don’t even know someone.
For the jealous brother comment. I know Matt well. As well as Steven. At ANY given time, the other brothers could be in the spotlight with Steven sharing it all.
It’s literally this simple. Matt wants hunting to be for what it use to be. Time in the field with friends, family, enjoying what nature has, what we all deserve from this planet we share. Opportunity. Success, enjoyment, etc.
Social Media, money, commercial hunting, and social status has taken hunting from above mentioned to “how can I get more likes?” Instead of enjoying the moment and taking it all in, “ let’s get killer pics and vids to post on social media.” “Maybe with these pics a sponsor will pick me up.” “I’ll only be recognized if I kill a 180” deer or 400” bull.” Worry more about a fashion statement than actually living in the moment. Taking it in. Slowing down.
Money has made it incredibly difficult for so many to have opportunities like we use to. And today’s social media, status etc has made hunting about being recognized vs actually hunting. People will spend almost any amount of $$$$ to get that recognition. That usually involves leasing land or paying incredible amounts for hunts which in turns locks land up.
His idea is to just take a step back. Not worry about all of that. Stop the grip and grin for the likes. Stop publicizing hunting, especially for the wrong reasons.
I stopped at “jealous brother” and that was enough. I’m literally Matt’s neighbor. Like right next door. Amazing how people throw garbage around when they don’t even know someone.
For the jealous brother comment. I know Matt well. As well as Steven. At ANY given time, the other brothers could be in the spotlight with Steven sharing it all.
It’s literally this simple. Matt wants hunting to be for what it use to be. Time in the field with friends, family, enjoying what nature has, what we all deserve from this planet we share. Opportunity. Success, enjoyment, etc.
Social Media, money, commercial hunting, and social status has taken hunting from above mentioned to “how can I get more likes?” Instead of enjoying the moment and taking it all in, “ let’s get killer pics and vids to post on social media.” “Maybe with these pics a sponsor will pick me up.” “I’ll only be recognized if I kill a 180” deer or 400” bull.” Worry more about a fashion statement than actually living in the moment. Taking it in. Slowing down.
Money has made it incredibly difficult for so many to have opportunities like we use to. And today’s social media, status etc has made hunting about being recognized vs actually hunting. People will spend almost any amount of $$$$ to get that recognition. That usually involves leasing land or paying incredible amounts for hunts which in turns locks land up.
His idea is to just take a step back. Not worry about all of that. Stop the grip and grin for the likes. Stop publicizing hunting, especially for the wrong reasons.
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I may have missed something, but I took away from most of Matt's comments that he just thinks Steven has been a little too filtered by exterior influences and often feels like Steven does not say things about what he actually is thinking.
Matt is passionate about the clarity of intent.
I do not believe anyone who makes a living in the outdoor industry does not feel some pressure to decline to engage.
It is entirely personal and no clear right or wrong exists in WHEN you say something , as long as WHAT you say is the truth.
Matt is passionate about the clarity of intent.
I do not believe anyone who makes a living in the outdoor industry does not feel some pressure to decline to engage.
It is entirely personal and no clear right or wrong exists in WHEN you say something , as long as WHAT you say is the truth.
If this is his stance, then I truly support it. As long as we are taking the necessary steps to maintain or better yet grow the access and freedom we currently have so we can pass it along.
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Like it or not, social media is here to stay. Here we are on AT, a form of social media via the internet where some come to share, discuss, buy or sell, learn or teach. While others come to burn the place down with ill-intent in the form of baiting, badgering, scamming or outright lying. It isn't the media, but how the individual goes about using or misusing the particular form that is going to bring favor or disgrace.
The mention of new hunter recruitment in a previous post via social media is a reality.....even if we don't want it to be. Kids are growing up in front of screens and Youtube is a very significant source of their information-entertainment. Loud guys in mohawks or goofy dudes selling field point kits with putdowns in the name of FOC get 'likes' because they are at the core reaching folks who are looking for a WWE type oersonality in archery. Our society is very much different from the humble hunting tribe previously noted, because our athletes, actors and politicians tend to be obnoxious showmen as well.....poor role models but that is simply where we are.
Fred Bear and Howard Hill made movies of their hunts to popularize archery to the masses. It worked, as many of us baby boomers grew up watching Fred Bear on ABC's Wild World of Sports and wanting to own a Bear bow. We might not like the comparison, but hunting magazines, catalogs and the expanding VCR hunting video market of the 1970s-90s were the "influencers" of the day. Guys like Miles Keller, the Wensel brothers, Noel Feather, etc were the 'rockstars' of that era and kids growing up took note. So is it any wonder that with a much wider market and accessibility, that folks today are predictably going to utilize all the tech tools to emulate their elders?
The mention of new hunter recruitment in a previous post via social media is a reality.....even if we don't want it to be. Kids are growing up in front of screens and Youtube is a very significant source of their information-entertainment. Loud guys in mohawks or goofy dudes selling field point kits with putdowns in the name of FOC get 'likes' because they are at the core reaching folks who are looking for a WWE type oersonality in archery. Our society is very much different from the humble hunting tribe previously noted, because our athletes, actors and politicians tend to be obnoxious showmen as well.....poor role models but that is simply where we are.
Fred Bear and Howard Hill made movies of their hunts to popularize archery to the masses. It worked, as many of us baby boomers grew up watching Fred Bear on ABC's Wild World of Sports and wanting to own a Bear bow. We might not like the comparison, but hunting magazines, catalogs and the expanding VCR hunting video market of the 1970s-90s were the "influencers" of the day. Guys like Miles Keller, the Wensel brothers, Noel Feather, etc were the 'rockstars' of that era and kids growing up took note. So is it any wonder that with a much wider market and accessibility, that folks today are predictably going to utilize all the tech tools to emulate their elders?
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I agree with him for the most part. It doesn't just happen on a national level either. Plenty harm can be done locally.
Hell, just today some moron posted a bluegill he thought would be a state record on the facebook for the WMA we have a camp on. There will literally be 100 grown men or more on every little lake out there trying to wipe out the brim. That isn't an exaggeration. The last time the dummies posted their bluegill catches they cleaned house. We were just starting to catch some big enough to eat again.
Last year, the deer out there showed promise that they were coming back after the super slaughter that occurred about 7 years ago. A booner and a few other 140-160's got killed. They couldn't help but brag on facebook though. The WMA page has around 9,000 followers. They will all be there with their crossguns and ill regard for the rules. That place was a hunting and fishing paradise before a certain tv hunter wannabe, facebook and crossguns. In 22 years it went from 35 hunting camps out there to well over 200. At lease I got to enjoy some of the good times.
Hell, just today some moron posted a bluegill he thought would be a state record on the facebook for the WMA we have a camp on. There will literally be 100 grown men or more on every little lake out there trying to wipe out the brim. That isn't an exaggeration. The last time the dummies posted their bluegill catches they cleaned house. We were just starting to catch some big enough to eat again.
Last year, the deer out there showed promise that they were coming back after the super slaughter that occurred about 7 years ago. A booner and a few other 140-160's got killed. They couldn't help but brag on facebook though. The WMA page has around 9,000 followers. They will all be there with their crossguns and ill regard for the rules. That place was a hunting and fishing paradise before a certain tv hunter wannabe, facebook and crossguns. In 22 years it went from 35 hunting camps out there to well over 200. At lease I got to enjoy some of the good times.
Never pay Attention to Others, As no two archers have the Same Skills or Opportunities when Deer Hunting. I do my time practicing so I am Ready. No One else does much to change my Hunting or Time afield. Do Not See The Point and never heard of This person! So he is Not "Important"! If you are chasing Deer It is On You To Make the Shot so he has no Affect on Your Time Afield unless you need someone to Follow and following is never worth the Time. Leading is what makes the Difference At Least for Me It Does.
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Why reply if you have no clue? The issue is publicizing public land, over commercialization of hunting, and the lie that hunter numbers are in decline. Matt was on the Huntr podcast. It is a great listen. If your favorite areas all of sudden have 5 to 10x more people hunting them due to publicity or your hunting club that used to host 10 members is lost to a single person then you would likely have a worse experience outdoors. No amount of skill or leadership can overcome that.
He has some positive points. Like stop recruiting more hunters when there is less and less quality hunting places and game available. Like the negative influence people like the Bomars have, who people elevate into status symbols even though they are everything hunting shouldn't be.
Even on here the deer hunting g contests/leagues that are promoted and allowed to play out. That shat is pathetic.
The landlocked public land needs to be unlocked and not held as a profit line for a wealthy surrounding land owner and outfitter.
But I disagree with most of his premise. And I don't believe there's anyway to stop or reverse the damage.
Even on here the deer hunting g contests/leagues that are promoted and allowed to play out. That shat is pathetic.
The landlocked public land needs to be unlocked and not held as a profit line for a wealthy surrounding land owner and outfitter.
But I disagree with most of his premise. And I don't believe there's anyway to stop or reverse the damage.
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How do you suppose land locked public land be accessed?
I know I'm not one that would forfit my land rights.
Yes. Hunting is more difficult and lone access to public land is far different than 40 years ago.
Its the numbers game. And dumb people posting stuff on social media or in print paper doesn't help.
I've had many awesome fishing spots ruined by sight, word of mouth, and print, way before the internet.
But the fact is we rely way more on management practices both by the state, and individuals to have quality time hunting and fishing today due to population and technology.
Zip up your đź’‹.
I know I'm not one that would forfit my land rights.
Yes. Hunting is more difficult and lone access to public land is far different than 40 years ago.
Its the numbers game. And dumb people posting stuff on social media or in print paper doesn't help.
I've had many awesome fishing spots ruined by sight, word of mouth, and print, way before the internet.
But the fact is we rely way more on management practices both by the state, and individuals to have quality time hunting and fishing today due to population and technology.
Zip up your đź’‹.
I agree with most of the article and would add to stop with the electronic surveillance (trail cams) of the wilds.This is the article that started all the controversy among the hunting celebs/influencers.
Opinion: Unfollowing Hunting Social Media Will Make Hunting Better
Matt Rinella explains why he thinks hunters should shun social media and only share hunting photos with loved ones and IRL friends.freerangeamerican.us
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I agree. However, the Bowmars are no different than any of the other horn porn industry types e.g. Lee and Titty, Realtree Gang, Mossy Oak Guys, Bone Collector, and so on. This all goes back to the 90's with Monster Bucks. All of the outdoor magazines were warring people of the hunting climate we see today.
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Hunting hasn't gotten better because of social media.
It's gotten worse, opportunity has gotten worse, and overcrowding had gotten worse.
The hunting industry is prospering, hunting "conservation" groups are prospering.
But tags are getting harder to get, draw are getting ridiculous, populations have largely peaked and are going down, there's less land to access.
And it will only continue on that trend.
It's gotten worse, opportunity has gotten worse, and overcrowding had gotten worse.
The hunting industry is prospering, hunting "conservation" groups are prospering.
But tags are getting harder to get, draw are getting ridiculous, populations have largely peaked and are going down, there's less land to access.
And it will only continue on that trend.
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I said many years ago, leasing would eventually be the downfall of hunting. I was ridiculed then, I'm sure I'll be either ridiculed or attacked now, but I stand by it.
Social media and the "hunting industry" are the new commercial hunters of the 2000s, similar to the early 1900s who almost wiped out entire species. Same end game, money.
Social media and the "hunting industry" are the new commercial hunters of the 2000s, similar to the early 1900s who almost wiped out entire species. Same end game, money.
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He's a research ecologist who works with habitat, iirc Prarie habitat.
He's also Steve Rinnellas half brother, and has a podcast called Hunt Quietly where he advocates for people to stop following social media hunters, and to quit posting dead and dying animals to social media.
He also runs a non-profit, that advocates for land access and donates things to land owners enrolled in Montanas block management.
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To some extent I agree. as a hunter I keep my grip and grins for me and my close friends, they never see the interwebs. Think about it you may show your pics but you sure as he** aren't going to share your hunting location on the net. why invite competition. That's one of the things he is claiming That showing that bull that you shot in (insert State ) is going to create a massive movement towards out of state Hunters to (insert State). it happens! And in that aspect i think he has had a bad experience with non residents But I think manufactures will disagree, they want to see grip and grins showing their latest technology, more hunter recruitment
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Boil it down to more money for them.
Of course the industry loves it, they want as much money as they can get now, because they'll get less in the future.
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