why do chicks like archery?

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blindfly69

Discussion Starter · Jul 31, 2006

lol you might think this question is stupid but i swear its true 9 times out of 10.....i have a buddy that says he took up archery to meet chicks and sometimes i believe him.....there's always girls at the club....i know girls who LOVE to bowhunt but wont shoot guns at all.....what is it about archery??

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Makiro-archer

· #41 · Oct 8, 2006

kegan said:
there are genetic differences between men and women. but istead of men turning out superior, women are the superior ones. y chromosomes are have the largest differences with our simmien cousins, so theoretically women are stronger and less susceptible to diseases like malaria and aids. but people just grew up ignorant. originally, male apes had more testoterone causing them to be violent and controlling- that started it all.

now that i'm done with my history/biology lesson, let me illiterate that things like hunting and archery are thought to be "the man's job", so now adays when most guys sit at offices, society feels we need those "manly instincts".

well now adays men and women are both strong so since men sit at offices thats their choice.women want to feel strong so they dicied to start shooting a bow and arrow so please even when apes ruled the world they don't any more so technicaly generics don't come into play today.I feel that a man and a women are as strong as they want to be if they sit at offices all day thats how they choice to be strong if women want to do archery thats their strong.

mbuemi

· #42 · Oct 8, 2006

Well im not trying to say that women are unequal, for a lack of better words, than men, but i was merely trying to point out a scientific fact. Men do generally have more muscle mass and capacity than women do.

What were we talking about again...

kegan

· #43 · Oct 8, 2006

let's all get back to the point here- why do chicks like archery? so far i've found that it is because it takes more skill than a gun. anybody else?

mbuemi

· #44 · Oct 9, 2006

Well i can only make assumptions as im not a girl...but i'd go with what most of the other guys are saying. Almost no noise, and no kick.

medved

· #45 · Oct 9, 2006

There was exactly one thing I was afraid of where I went to highschool, which was archery in girls phys ed. The only two safe places to stand were directly in front of the target, or 250 yards away, and I always kept 300 yards between that and myself.

Women's archery, however, has come a huge distance since that time:

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Makiro-archer

· #46 · Oct 10, 2006

first of all nice kill looks good.and second of all i realy could care less that they have more muscle mass i think that if women tried hard enough we could have as much.hell look at the women body builders.point provin:teeth:

mbuemi

· #47 · Oct 10, 2006

Lol that wasnt the point...Im not saying they cant or couldnt do anything. Its just that they, by nature, have a smaller muscle mass. Im not trying to be insulting, if that was implied, thats just how it is.

And btw, do you know the Bob white archery club? Which club do you go to, because im very close to where you live. (Makiro)

medved

· #48 · Oct 11, 2006

Makiro-archer said:
first of all nice kill looks good.and second of all i realy could care less that they have more muscle mass i think that if women tried hard enough we could have as much.hell look at the women body builders.point provin:teeth:

One of the prettiest women of the 1890s was also one of the strongest women ever to walk the Earth. Try doing google searches on 'Katie Sandwina'.

About 6-1, 220 or thereabouts. Katie could put 300 lbs on a bar and do military presses with it.

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Hoyt Queen

· #49 · Oct 11, 2006

I think I can fairly join this discussion - because I am a chick and I love archery. I agree with mbuemi, women do not have the muscle mass a man does, I know for a fact. That is the way God made us. Women are at a disadvantage due to that fact. When you look at all the factors, the poundage that you pull is a huge one. Most women that I know can not pull more than 50-55 lbs., and that is usually the larger women who have built their muscles up. Smaller women usually tend to pull much less than that. (not always, so don't anyone get offended). I am of average build and have been shooting for 6 years. I can pull 47 lbs. very comfortably. I can pull 55 lbs. but not more than once. Most men that I know of, no matter what their size, can usually pull back 60 lbs. easy. A lot of them pull more like 70 or more. How can you try to debate that women and men are made the same? Not only that, look at body mass (muscle vs. fat ratio). The ideal man has more lean muscle than the ideal woman, men are supposed to have around 12% body fat, woman are supposed to have around 25% (which in turn means that men are supposed to have more muscle). That's just the way God made us. BTW, there are advantages to both

Now about the body builder comment, it's true that women obsessed with that can make themselves look like a man, but who wants to do that? I am a lady and proud of it. I work out and lift weights - it helps keep me fit and toned, but it does not create muscle mass equivalent to that of a man's. Besides, if we're out shooting in our spare time, how are we going to find time to work out and lift weights for hours a day like they do? Point proven.

mbuemi: I only own Hoyts (I currently have 3 of them). I am currently shooting a Trykon XL and love it! The only flaw with my setup is that I don't have enough of them

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88 PS190

· #50 · Oct 11, 2006

4 years ago (highschool) I was a range officer in our archery club. And as such showed alot of people how to draw and hold. And while guys are capable of hauling back more weight they also seem to have a predeposition to think that this is desireable. Therefore they would pick out bows (recurve) with higher poundage (40-50 normally). The girls would pick one in the 15 to 25 pound range. And I feel that picking the lighter weight was probably one thing that helped get them shooting properly faster and easier than with the guys.

The guys could easily pull their 45 or so, but would use the wrong muscles as they hadn't learned how to hold their arm with the back muscles, and using the heavier poundage it was harder to get them to shut off the use of arm muscles and train up their back muscle memory.

The girls on he lighter bows, and perhaps with less arm strength quickly learned how to use the large back muscles to do the work, and once drawn were much steadier, and more comfortable.

The girls also didn't have the habit of drawing and releasing quickly, but instead could be shown and then repeat a consistant anchor point and sight picture.

That said our best overall archers were guys, but I think that was just because we took the time to delve into the mechanics/set up a bit more than those girls did.

I think at more serious levels of the sport girls take the time to understand their equipment and us guys need to take heed.

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mbuemi

· #51 · Oct 11, 2006

Holy cow shes smart and shoots hoyts.... 0_0

And...

Oh by all means i dont think anyone is trying to prove that women are incapable of shooting bows just as well as men.(If i've over stressed that point, i just want to make it clear whats trying to be said.)

What you said, 88, makes a lot of sense. Ive heard and seen that girls have much more patience to learn things correctly, and not get mad and try to throw your bow over a clif...Not that ive done that though...

Our best shooter next year in our trap league will actually be a girl...She is awesome, thats for sure.

88 PS190

· #52 · Oct 11, 2006

mbuemi said:
Our best shooter next year in our trap league will actually be a girl...She is awesome, thats for sure.

I know some girls like that, half amazed they like shooting 12's and all amazed by them shooting so consistantly.

mbuemi

· #53 · Oct 12, 2006

88 PS190 said:
I know some girls like that, half amazed they like shooting 12's and all amazed by them shooting so consistantly.

? Sorry i dont understand what you mean by that...Reword it maybe? I think i know what youre getting at...

Hoyt Queen

· #54 · Oct 12, 2006

Not only do we tend to be more patient and more willing to learn the proper technique, etc, but we also have one big advantage.......we don't have to worry about being macho in front of all the other guys (or girls)!!

:nono:

Question for you guys: Why can't I get any of the guys to shoot with me? Guys will take me out on a date, take me hunting, etc. -- but they will NOT come shoot with me!

Techy

· #55 · Oct 12, 2006

kegan said:
there are genetic differences between men and women. but istead of men turning out superior, women are the superior ones. y chromosomes are have the largest differences with our simmien cousins, so theoretically women are stronger and less susceptible to diseases like malaria and aids. but people just grew up ignorant. originally, male apes had more testoterone causing them to be violent and controlling- that started it all.

now that i'm done with my history/biology lesson,QUOTE]

In my genetics classes I have leaned nothing about the Y chromosome affecting susceptability to Malaria or Aids

I know that heterozygosity of the sickle cell trait has been linked to resistance to malaria. And that only has to do with the body's ability to recognize sickle cells which malaria causes. That is supposedly the reason sickle cell alleles have been selected for and still exist.

88 PS190

· #56 · Oct 12, 2006

sickle cell anemiea is so prevelant because those who have sickle cell anemia are more likely to survive infection than those with out the trait. And is not linked to recognition of malaria.

Its akin to cysticfibrosis in european populations and resistance to the plague.

As far as Y chromosome affecting susceptability to aids, it is easier for women to contract HIV than it is for a guy to contract HIV, but I believe I have heard that it developing into full blown Aids is less likely in females.

Enough of that stuff.

Do chicks dig archery? Yes, if you meet a girl who also likes shooting, you should go shoot with her. And prepare to lose just remember if you act slightly like you were sandbagging they will be very mad, and keep demanding rematches.

mbuemi

· #57 · Oct 12, 2006

Hoyt Queen:

Because it looks aweful bad when you kick our butts

Hoyt Queen

· #58 · Oct 13, 2006

mbuemi, 88 PS190 and any other guy out there,

Do your wives shoot with you? Do they kick your butt? (come on now, tell the truth! just kidding). I know a few couples that shoot together and usually the man is still a better shooter. No matter who is better, I think it's a great hobby to have together.

mbuemi

· #59 · Oct 13, 2006

Ahaa...well...in most circumstances, that is true. But i can tell you, its either because the guy thinks:

The girl cant keep up
will nag him to death
will beat him and make him look bad

Generally its one of those. Not that theyre true, normally they arent. Ive never seen a girl who cant hike through WV just as well as i can. Nagging tho...

88 PS190

· #60 · Oct 13, 2006

Hoyt Queen said:
mbuemi, 88 PS190 and any other guy out there,

Do your wives shoot with you? Do they kick your butt? (come on now, tell the truth! just kidding). I know a few couples that shoot together and usually the man is still a better shooter. No matter who is better, I think it's a great hobby to have together.

I got one of my ex girlfriends to shoot with me.. not married (21 so i'm not rushing it) She still shoots, internature recurve, She goes out back and shoots most everyday.

Maybe my next should be an archer...

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