I have recovered every deer I have shot with rage. A heavy arrow definitely helps I like using easton fmj. As far as bow poundage goes I have killed 2 with a pse stinger 3G at 50 lbs. and a original 2 blade both blood trails less than 30 yards. In my opinion it is people making bad decisions. And honestly I'm sick of seeing "rage broadhead fail" threads because of people taking 60-80 yard shots.

 

Have to agree with this. 2013 Stinger 3G, but mine is with 70lb limbs. I use the Rage 3 blade, cut in contact head. Worked perfect for me this year, killed two in one night, ten minutes apart, both about 35 yds out. One ran 25 yds to the right and crashed, the other 25 yds to the left and crashed. Got a complete pass thru on the first, the second watched my lighted nock turn and run through the woods.

Full disclosure: This is the first year I have taken any deer with my bow(not for lack of trying, let me tell you), got skunked previous years. I bought them as a new archer, because they closely resembled a field point, at least in my mind. Practiced with the training heads and got them hitting with my field points. I practiced very hard, I didn't want to wound an animal and I wanted to build confidence in me and my equipment. I could buy "better" heads, but I don't really see a need to right now. Maybe they will fail me, maybe I will be tempted by something a buddy shoots. But until that time I will stick with what works. Good luck to everyone this year, it's already been a GREAT year for me.

 

I am with you I have over 20 kills with a rage and have yet to loose a deer.

 

In today's messed up society just the name will conjure up people's emotions. A few people will see "Rage" and say "heck ya". But most everyone else will see it and say "that's just so violent and offensive, the government should make them change the name". And that's before anyone has ever even used them. Anything with that much rage has to be bad, right?

I tested the originals when they first came out, but they couldn't survive my testing. But I've heard good things about the Hypo's, so I'm sure I'll try those out at some point.

 

Yup! Rage+FMJ= awesome.

 

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I think it has to do with the number of fanboys shooting them that cut down others for not using them and blindly defend them even when the evidence is clear that there may be a problem. Now before anyone gets huffy and puffy, I know most people who shoot them are not fanboys. However, the few that are, are very loud about it. For me, I don't care what you shoot but don't tell me what I shoot/use is inferior because it's not your favorite or not what you use. I actually have customers ask my opinion about broadheads and then tell me that I'm wrong when I tell them that I don't personally care for Rage. Nothing makes me turned off of something more than a bunch of people blindly loving it just because it's advertised a lot on TV.

I do not like their blade retention system. I still hear rattling blades when I periodically open a package and check them out again and I don't like relying on a little piece of plastic or rubber when I hunt so hard to get maybe one shot. I also still have customers tell me that they are still opening in their quivers if they're not careful. That may be user error but if it's that tricky to use then IMO, it could be better. I've seen a lot of bent/broken blades. I know they fixed the Hypos blades from breaking for the most part but you still see them bend a lot. I don't get that with the mechs that I've chosen to use and I'm able to touch up the blades and get them back in the quiver.

Those are the reasons I'm not a fan. Now there are obviously going to be fanboys of just about any product. If you've had good luck with a product then I'm happy for you. Just don't be one of those guys that has to cut down what I use because you don't use it and all will be good.

 

Not a fanboy here. I have never had the rattling problem or the coming open in my quiver. My Rage of choice is the chisel tip with a o ring. Very open to other heads. If I was to go buy new broadheads today, I'd try Magnus Black Hornet.

 

Man you would love the Black Hornets , they are tough , fly great , and I like the serrazors 4 blades, bad as hell. Gotta love em. I shoot them and rage no collars, I wouldn't shoot rage before the no collars but now they won't open in my quiver or make noise so I tried em again and I love em again.

 

Beyond the effectiveness of the heads themselves, I think the reactions are due to the amount of money and effort that is put into advertising and sponsoring. I am not saying this is right or wrong, but when there are so many TV shows raving about the Rage and so many commercials on TV about them, it is going to cause both positive and negative reactions.

 

I like them. Killed turkey, deer, audad,big Russian boar and feral pigs with them. Everything fell in sight which is a bonus to me being colorblind. The rattle never bothered me till I started reading more in this forum. Then I found those collars. Life is good again.

 

What are "those" collars?

 

Only reason for the love and hate is that they are probably the number one selling mechanical broadhead. With all the sales someone will put a bad shot on a deer and need something to blame. I don't use rage but my relative has had great luck with them.

 

I have shot the 100 grain 2 blade chisel tip for the last 3 or 4 years and have had complete pass through on every deer I have shot with them and haven't lost a deer yet ( knock on wood !!! )

 

Any big cut mech + FMJ = awesome. I just try to direct people to less known heads that do just as good and save them money. Rage users tend to get offended and then post pictures of all their gaping holes. Lot's of good heads on the market, lots of people shooting them. However Rage kill threads usually starts with a close up of the big wound, and sticking your fingers in it and pulling it open is a bonus apparently, and is like "Look at my giant hole!"

In fact I've seen multiple Rage kill threads with no info on the hunt just lots of wound pictures and Rage fanboys admiring the other guys holes.

Then of course there are a lot of people who started using them back when they were one of the few names in town, had good results, and keep using them because they're comfortable with them. Same reason somehow a Slick Trick always winds up in my quiver no matter what head I plan on shooting.

 

I've used them for many years but have switched to ram cats. I've seen the good and the bad. So many people love them because when they function properly, don't loose there blades, don't bend or break a ferrule, don't hit hard bone or deflect on a quarting shot they are absolutely devastating. So many people hate them because one or more of the things I listed have happened to them.

They are devastating and reliable..... Unless they aren't. Ramcats are better penitrating and just as big of a cut with nothing that will fail to open. That's why I switched. Got tired of the inconsistency.

I hit 4 deer last year with hypodermics 70 lbs and a 415 grain arrow @ 292. 2 of them died within 70 yards with one great blood trail and one non existent blood trail. 2 of them got 4 inches of penitration and were not recovered. Somewhere in the shoulder area but not close to the knuckle. I decided no more mechanicals and raised my arrow weight to 560 grains.

I don't want to hit shoulder but it happens sometimes. I may hit something hard enough that it doesn't bust through with this setup but so far so good 2 shots 2 passthroughs and 2 big short blood trails. I didn't start a thread blaming rage for my lost deer but I don't want to use them anymore because there are better more durable and deeper penitrating heads out there that cut really big holes as well.

 

lots of deer with rage!!! lovem I have never blamed the head if I made a bad shot!!

 

it's an easy answer. they are popular and advertise a lot so their image is very widespread and they're seemingly "on top". society loves to tear down who's "on top" unless you're a fan of that thing/person/whatever in case you then become loud defending said thing/person/whatever.

 

I like them okay. They are great for out of a stand or blind. I took my only bow kill buck with a pass through on both shoulders at about 35 yards.

What I don't like is when I get out of the tree stand and walk around to cover other fields, grass and twigs will get caught behind the blades. If not noticed, this could potentially cause the broadhead to jam up and not open properly.

 

They've marketed the hell out if it. People buy marketing. Look at Mathews or rage. They both work but not better than anyone else. Rage are hated by me at least cause the one time I tried them they made me do tricks to keep blades from deploying upon removing from quiver. Heard lots of stories bout their blades failing to open or deploying prematurely that's why they're hated

 

Also their QC is not top notch. Some rattle, some have faulty shock collars that don't set properly. They started the whole $40+ broadhead trend. So I'm going to keep directing people to Wasp jak-hammers, and jak-knife's for $30 a pack. Not just Rage but every company with a $40 head unless it offers some real advantage like Grave Digger.

 

Greenhorn archers swearing they were the best broadhead ever is what annoyed me. I just don't take someone that seriously when he is standing there with his cookie cutter bow setup. When a guy looks like a walking advertisement for what's popular this year, most seasoned bowhunters just find him amusing. That kind of stuff actually turns me off to a product that might actually be good.

 

I have never understood or experienced the rattling or coming open in the quiver. Are guys trying to put them in a quiver with foam?

 

The old rage came open a lot, they redesigned the blades and it got better, then they went to collars and its a lot harder to accidently pop them open now. The rattling issue I've heard of was mostly with the 125 grain hypodermics.


The long and short of it is there is nothing out there that pleases everyone. Rage is by far the most popular and Heavily marketed broadhead out there so you are going to have those who love them and those who hate them. To me there are better options out there for what I want, to the next guy rage is the only head that can kill a deer.

If you like them, if you have never experienced a negative about them then use them. There are enough guys out there who have experienced negative things that it's not All made up. Just the number of times they have redesigned things should tell you there are real issues I mean when was the last time muzzy changed something? If it's not broke why did they fix it? I think rage has evolved into a pretty decent mechanical but at the end of the day it's still a mechanical and to make a mechanical in the 100-125 grain weight that everyone wants you must compromise The integrity of the head. It may never hurt you but then again it just might

 

I have shot rage once through a deer(past Saturday) broke both blades off but killed deer. Went through shoulder area and must have deflected and came out on offside front of shoulder on a broadside shot. Deer ran 70 yards and was prob dead before she fell over. I am selling them today and gonna go all fixed blades just because I want to. Did rage do the job, yes. Was I impressed? No because the other doe I shot this year went 15 yards and I sharpened the BH and its ready to go again. Not bashing rage but that's the way it's gonna go in my quiver!

 

I won't use them. Have personally seen them fail too penetrate more than eight inches.

 

originals with o-rings never let me down.

 

As others said earlier, the first versions had a bad tendency to open in flight, then they fixed that.
Then the blades often either broke or bent.
And often they were far from being sharp.
Then they fixed that with the new stamped blades.
And they also came with their new all steel hypodermic.
Then they moved most/all their production out of US to reduce costs but keep the same price.
They are extremely marketed, and often with totally stupid commercials that fits more for kids than adults.
Many hunters tend to use them, even if they don't have enough momentum/ke for them and the result is often not as intended.

I guess that is much of the reasons for the hate, plus the people that hate just because they like to hate.
The love is because they have worked well for many hunters and then you have all the fanboys that are not able to see any flaws, no matter what.

Todays Rage broadheads and specially the Hypodermic with the new stamped blades, is a very good choice to use when hunting if you have the proper setup to use them.
Till they started to make the Hypodermic with the new stamped blades, I didn't want to use them at all as I was not satisfied with how they were made.
But I think they are totally overpriced considering that they are not made in US with US workers.

I have ordered some china ones and am collecting them at the post office today.
I did this to test them properly to see how the quality is compared with the "American" ones.
If they are equal, then I will most likely buy more of them from China as I have no problems with that considering that Rage has outsourced the production of them to earn even more money by taking advantage of poor people/"slaves" outside the US.

 

I have yet to find knock off hypos in 125grain. Someone PM a link if they find em. Thanks.

Oh yeah, they work like a dream for me. No probs

 

Never used them, and couldn't care less what others use. I have friends that use them and I have seen more than one case of the blades opening before the shot. This has happened in turkey blinds.
I have hunted several places that ask that you not shoot any mechanicals on their hunts.
So I used fixed heads.
But if you like Rage, knock yourself out.