If you like it so much, then buy it! I shot it while looking for bows for one of my son's teenage buddies last year. It shot fine. What matters is what you think, as far as I'm concerned.

What comes with it for $289?

It is slow, 300fps IBO, which you will out grow fast. I think you can do better, even with your limited funds.

 

It came with a 3pin sight (value of $40), a hoyt 5 arrow quiver, and a whisker biscuit. Will i have trouble getting clean kills on whitetails with 300fps out to maybe 50yd?

 

50 yards might be pushing it. Be good inside 35 though, perhaps.

 

Out to 50 yards?

My wife shot an ignite as a starter and her accuracy went up a ton when I bought her a bow with a good back wall and longer axle to axle. (Hoyt Carbon Matrix)

With that said, they are a decent bow for the price, but I wouldn't really suggest to an adult. They are more of a grow with me bow, IMHO.

 

Gotcha, im a pretty small guy, 5'7 155lbs with a 26.5in drawlength. The dealer offered me the Powermax package for 500 but from what he said there wasn't a drastic difference. At least not enough to justify the $200 difference. He said the Powermax will shoot 10-20fps more and has better limbs.

 

I'd keep looking. Try to shoot some more bows at local shops. There are better deals to be found on the web, that is for sure. He's selling that Powermax at full price.

 

dont let people talk you into speed just for the sake of speed... up until a few years ago, no bows shot over 300 FPS... and they all killed deer just fine... as for those 50 yard shots... if your good enough to put the arrow in a 3 inch circle at 50 under pressure, the bow with a good arrow and broadhead will kill it.. distance kills are not the bow.. it's your skill level (as a new hunter I'd guess it will be a year or two before your making those shots).. my advice is if it feels good to you, and it's in your price range, then buy it... once that's done, it's learn good form and release, then practice, practice practice.... ( the advantage of faster bows is the arrow drops less per foot, so estimating distances can be more forgiving, but with proper arrows, the slower bows kill as many deer as the fast ones do)

 

i appreciate and respect this response. The 50yd shot is for the sake of being able to do it if i needed too. Of course my skill level would have to pull it off but in terms of the bows capabilities in shooting an arrow straight and true. Thats what i was asking about. But yea the guy at the shop said something similar about bows 15 years ago were killing deer just fine and were just over 200fps. So the speed doesn't bother me a whole lot. I want something comfortable and RELIABLE.

 

Think you'll be happier and probably more successful if you look for higher quality used equipment. $300-$400 will get you a lot of bow in the classifieds. Wisker biscuits are reliable, easy to set up, and inexpensive. I don't use sights, but a 3-pin on a slower bow (especially at your draw length where you are already going to lose around 35fps from IBO) will probably require a higher level of range estimating ability, and the gaps between pins is going to be relatively huge.

Buying used will allow you to try a variety of different pieces of equipment, and if something doesn't work particularly well for you it can be sold and you've lost very little if anything.

Will what you are looking at now work, yes, but work well is another question, and you owe it to your prey to execute a fast, efficient kill.

 

I absolutely love the idea of buying used. But with something like a bow, i feel it is easy to get screwed over because what if i buy something thats breathing its least breath. Or i wasn't told the cables/springs/cams are shot and need to be replaced before it shoots right? I don't wanna spend 4-500 for a solid bow and have to put another couple hundred bucks in it to have it shoot true. You see what im saying? Im also not educated enough to know if something small is wrong with the bow so even meeting up with someone in person would make it hard to know if im not getting ripped off.

 

There are Carbon Elements in the classifieds for 4 to 5 hundred and they are as good as it gets.

 

Was just going to say the same thing... Just saw one down to $440, think sight, rest, (and maybe quiver and arrows) were included.

 

Two thumbs up on the carbon element, especially a 2013! Wasting your money on beginner bow IMHO!

 

Do yourself a favor and spend more time looking. Also I would suggest maybe looking at some other shops. Stay out of the box stores.
Now my opinion the Powermax is a better bow. Sounds like your shop is dumping the Ignite because it is getting replaced for 2017.

 

Yea the worker said he's able to come down on the price a decent amount so that he can clear out the space and put 2017 models up. I could care less whether its 2010, 2013, or a 2017 bow right now. I just want something effective and reliable for my purposes.

 

Just want to through in my kudos ... in Doctorate school at age of 22 ... impressive! I was barely finishing by bachelors by then.

 

i appreciate the kind words. All the school stress is what's pushing me to get into archery so i can take my mind of things on the weekends.

 

I agree with most who say $400-$500 used, carbon element, wow, but if you have no idea what your doing I'd be worried too.
Now if it's only between the ignite and power max, I agree with Dale��, power max all the way
Btw, great stress releaver

 

Well if anyone wants to link me to a different bow recommendations listed on this forum by a trusted seller then please by all means. I would appreciate it. Im just a rookie.

 

You are just starting, the ignite is a great budget starter bow, and from a dealer you should get great service in setting it up and then helping you adjust and tune it as you improve you skills and draw weight. Getting a used bow from the classified is risky, and won't be set up for you. If the ignite felt great, go for it. The bowtech/diamond is a good bow too, just a different feel. Try em and buy what feels best, from a local shop with good service(avoid big box, service just isn't there)

 

great advice, yea initially i was gonna get one at cabelas but when i found this other place that has an archery range in it and basically only sells hoyt and bowtech i felt better. Not to mention the worker there and i had a nice long discussion and he seemed very knowledgeable and friendly. So that's why i felt good about spending my money there. It just comes down to how much can i be spending.

 

If you are wanting to make 50 yard shots, it will be hard with the Ignite but not impossible. It would just take a lot of practice and a lot of work on your form. The Ignite has a 28 in ATA. Shorter ATA bows are harder to hold on target for distance shooting. But I believe you mentioned that you weren't a big guy. So it might not be much of an issue for you. For me, it's very hard to hold my short axel bow on target at 50 yards. I can do it but it's taken a lot of practice and form work.

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yea i wanna be very comfortable shooting out to 50 and beyond. Personally i catch on to things very quick and am sort of a perfectionist when it comes to hobbies. I started playing billiards my sophomore year in undergrad and senior year i was a national qualifier. I don't say that to toot my own horn but to show that i am dedicated to things i enjoy. I plan on practicing with my bow anytime im not studying or at the gym. So i believe within a few months ill be a solid shooter out to 50yds.

 

I'll share a story with you because it's kinda slow on AT right now. Not at all trying to talk you into something, just sharing a story.
I went into my local proshop and the owner Jim, was helping a guy he's obviously known for a long time get setup with a new bow. While the owner was tying in a peep and so on, me and this guy started talking about hunting stories and places we've been. He said he was a retired butcher, who loved to bow hunt especially elk hunts out west with his son. I could see the child like excitement in his eyes and hear the passion in his voice as he told his stories. He then told me the reason he was in the shop was because on the last hunt he had his bow stolen out of his truck. He replaced his bow but wanted a back up bow in case this happened again. Now I could tell this guy was a good hunter by the way he talked. I told him I lived in Idaho for a couple years and he said " I hunted elk around the Dworshak Reservoir" and that gave me goose bumbs because after I left Idaho I never met anyone who ever heard of that area much less been there. That is some beautiful country. Anyway this guy was buying a Promax which kinda surprised me because you wouldn't think someone who liked to bow hunt so much would buy a lower end bow. But I totally got it because I was actually just talking to Jim a couple weeks before about the Promax because I was looking for a backup bow also at the time but ended up buying a different bow in classifieds for the same amount which was $400. He could have done that too but it was worth it to him to just go in there and get a solid good shooting bow and have Jim get him set up
See the thing is we both knew that this lower end Hoyt was completely adequate for any bow hunt if it was called upon. The Hoyts are as tough and tougher as any bow out there, accurate and reliable. The guy got his rest, peep, etc. put on, and I watched him shoot a few down range as he got his draw length adjusted like he wanted. He was completely satisfied plopped down his credit card and finished the deal. He was a nice guy and I was glad I got to talk to him. After he left Jim says" that guys a really good hunter knows what he's talking about". Jim would never say that about someone if it weren't absolutely true because he himself is a great shot and hunter. I said "yeah could tell".
Anyways he spent over $600 but he got a new bow, set up exactly like he wanted it. Like someone said on another thread, part of it may be because it's the only shop around and he carries Hoyts, Mathews, if he carried others maybe we would be shooting PSE or Primes, who knows.

Hope I didn't bore you to death

 

No not boring at all! I enjoy reading little stories like this. Thats one thing that draws me towards getting a new bow, is the fact i can watch the guy work on it right in front of me and learn a thing or two about how and why hes doing certain things. Plus being a FIRST bow it makes it nicer to get a BRAND NEW one. After some years of experience and shooting then i can start too look for great used bow deals. But for now Its between the ignite and powermax.

 

I believe you'd be better off with the powermax. And that's just because you talked about making long yardage shots. The powermax has a 31 in ATA which would help with that. 31 inches is still a short ATA for a bow. But like I said, it just takes practice. I completely agree with you wanting a new bow. Buying a used bow on limited knowledge can be a tricky situation. I saw a guy selling a Mathews bow for a fair price and I contacted him. I asked what the draw length was set at. He said 27.5 inches. I have a 30.5 draw length and I knew that bow was cam specific on draw length. I said sorry but that doesn't work for me because I'd have to buy a new cam and change out strings and cables. He then tried to tell me that I could make up the draw length buy shooting a thumb trigger release. This of course is false information and I knew it. But he was trying to get me to buy a bow I couldn't shoot unless I put another $200 in it. That was on Craigslist not here, in case you were wondering. You can't make up 3 inches in draw length by changing your release.

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yea thats another thing about buying used is that its most likely not going to be to my specification needs. Because my draw length is shorter then average at 26.5-27in. Meaning id have to go get it tailored to my needs at a shop which of course wouldn't be free. But yea im highly considering the powermax. I only played around with the Ignite. So im gonna go back to the shop this week and have him pull out the powermax for me. If it feels just as good as the ignite then ill probli get it. If not then ill try my luck with the ignite.

 

I'm sorry I said Promax I ment power max, I get those names mixed up all the time

 

The Powermax is great. I have one on order. My draw length is 26", pretty average for a female. The backwall was great and even shooting 42 pounds it felt a lot faster than the Bear Cruzer I own. The draw was so smooth. I didn't shoot the ignite because I didn't feel it would be an upgrade from the Cruzer, which I really didn't care for, too much hand shock. The Powermax...zero handshock. You should go shoot it!

 

I shot an ignite for a while and killed a deer with it too. Very good bow for a beginner but as was mentioned before it is designed as a grow with you bow. Since you don't need that feature you can look at bows that have more of what you do need. The ignite wouldn't be a bad start but if you decide you love archery after you get into it then you might want to upgrade and then the money spent on the ignite would be wasted. That is exactly what happened to me. I soon switched to the hoyt charger which is the older version of the powermax. It gives you a better back wall and longer axcel to axcel which will both boost accuracy. Not to mention more speed for greater killing power. I would recommend going with the powermax but if that is too much money by all means take courage and buy used. You can get a used charger very cheap these days. A wisker biscuit is a very resonable way to save money. Best of luck and just a warning. You are about to get into something very addicting so have fun!

 

Don't get me wrong, id love to get a carbon defiant if i could because of its capabilities but that isn't possible without have to take out extra loan money. I wanna be able to buy this bow using my own money, which isn't much so i have to be smart about how i spend it. I do worry that i will out grow the ignite quick but i don't think it will lose much value being that its so adjustable. I could even hand it down to my little brother if he gets into archery. Im gonna go test out the Powermax first before i buy the ignite but it will be one or the other. Im gonna stay away from used bows for now.

 

I have been shooting the Hoyt Ignite for 2 years now. The bow has never given me any trouble. I have killed 3 deer with my bow. They are the only deer I have ever killed with a bow. I absolutely love shooting it. I shoot it probably 7 hours per week. I paid $400 for it new and ready to hunt. I did change all the accessories on it though. If I remember right, I am shooting approximately 268 FPS. I have recovered all deer that I have shot. I think the most important thing is shot placement. I would jump on buying the Ignite at the price you listed. I don't believe you'll be disappointed if you do buy it.

 

i went ahead and got the powermax, early birthday gift from my girlfriend