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I know this is an old thread but I have a new Lift ready for pick up and I’m curious about the cutter stabs. I have always ran BS micros and was planning on them for this bow as well but I’ve been doing some research as an alternative to those and the insanely expensive BL stabilizer. Are you still loving these cutters? What back bar mount is this? Thanks in advance!

 

You'll see the Cutters have very clean lines in their design. One thing to be aware of is that their end weights are smaller in diameter than Bee Stinger weights but they are thicker. This means they stick out more. This technically improves MOI but does add some total length just in case that's something you are trying to manage (or need to for bowhunter 3D competition). Of course, you can use Bee Stinger weights instead and you have the same overall length. I do think the Cutter weights have a cleaner and more refined look and I'm hopeful the finish holds up as well as they say because it's not good with Bee Stinger. I can't tell you how many 1 oz. weights I have from Bee Stinger and 90% of them or more have one or more chips in them. Sort of annoying but they perform so I've not gotten too hung up on it.

 

I listed to a podcast from Eastmans last night talking to the owners of Cutter. Seem like super switched on guys. I’d like to try them but funds currently prohibit that until I decide to liquidate some accessories

 

Cool - which podcast was it?

I know Eastman's is plugged into them and I've seen Cutter a time or two in recent Eastman's Bowhunting mags.

 

I looked at them as well, bought a 15 inch from wickstick though. Nice review.

 

They look great on the bow.

Next time I'm itching to try a new Stab I will have to try these out. I've been using the RevX bars from Shrewd on my Enkore, they are very nice too. Not really considered a hunting stabilizer but work just the same.

 

I'm always messing with things too, and I'll tell you that a microhex with a doinker a bomb on the end really impressed me (yes I still have weights on there too). Glad you found a quality product you enjoy!

 

Which size doinker? Ive been thinking about doing this too.

 

Always love a good Predator post!

 

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Seems people want to make their hunting bow a target bow. I've used the NAP Shock Blocker for 20 years on several different bows, even on one of my 3D bows, and on my present hunting bow right now. No complaints, it's get the job done.........

 

So you aren't putting a stabilizer on your bow - just a vibe dampening device. And that's fine. Everyone has to figure out what works well for them. I like a well balanced and optimally accurate bow for hunting purposes and yes, accuracy matters to me when shooting at live animals (frankly more than hitting a spot on a piece of paper). Maybe I just want every bit of assistance I can get to make up for my own deficiencies - lol - but that's what I like and there are many others who feel the same. So for those who do like to actually shoot some sort of real stabilizer setup on their hunting bows I figure it's worth sharing as these are really well designed and made stabilizers that aren't well known.

 

It’s funny the two mentioned stabilizers ( cutter and rev x is what I run on my sr6)

Cutter is great ! Rev x also great! I love that cutter is small American owned business though . I think I read somewhere he was ex military. Will get my business any day


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I picked up a hunter bundle from Titanium Archery Products that I’m pretty happy with. I don’t really know a lot about the company but they seem like good quality. The bundle came with my choice of front and side stabilizers in various sizes, quick release mount for the front and a quick release for the side that can be angled in any direction. Weights can easily be added, it came with three for the front and three for the back.

Seems like it would be hard to screw up stabilizers. Some carbon fiber tubing, some weights, and some mounting hardware.

 

Seems like it would be hard to screw up stabilizers. Some carbon fiber tubing, some weights, and some mounting hardware.

On the surface yes. It's really an issue of incremental benefits in design. Some stabs are chunky with a lot of surface area - not optimal. Some are heavy rods or endcaps adding too much overall weight to the bow without achieving optimal MOI benefits. Some have poor balance points again, suboptimizing MOI. Some have flexible components prior to the weighting system which is not good - jacks up the ideal benefits of proper stabilization. Some are ugly or lack durability. Some have better secondary benefits of vibe reduction than others. If you understand how a stab is supposed to work and get into the real details on a head-to-head basis you start to see some real and meaningful diffs - at least IMO. Some won't care (and that attitude shows us elsewhere in their equipment as well). But some look for the best and for those the Cutter stabs are a great option to consider.

 

What makes it the best? The best for me is one that dampens the bow more than stabilizes it. Nothing against the product but your best and what others think is best may not be the same.

 

I think I pretty clearly described what makes it the best. Of course it's my opinion but I provide the criteria that defines an optimal stabilizer and then demonstrate how the Cutter fits those criteria better than anything else I've seen or tested on the market. Feel free to find something you think is better and provide a review making that case. I'm always interested in learning more and there may be some option out there I'm not yet aware of.

Your expressed goal is vibe dampening, not stabilization. That's fine. Maybe you shoot an older bow that rattles your teeth when you shoot it. I've been around a while and shot plenty of older bows where I actually felt like additional vibe dampening of a material nature was beneficial but it's been a long time since that's been the case. Proper stabilization is not about that - it's about properly balancing the bow for optimal hold and shot execution and avoiding unnecessary levels of torque on the shot which WILL happen if you've got balance issues with your bow and that will affect accuracy.

 

I've had the same search going and ended up always back with bee stinger........until I looked at conquest archery smac down .625.

 

Thanks for the review.
What camo is on your Elite?

 

No problem.

That's KUIU Verde 2.0 camo. And I've got Breathn X99 threads in Kiwi and Silver with Black pins which matches really nicely.

Haven't seen many of the elite bows in this camo out there. I ordered very early on late last year and while it took longer than average to get it I think I got ahead of the worst delays that seem to be plaguing the entire industry right now.

 

You clearly have more sensitivity to stab function than I do. Back when I was shooting FITA target archery, I had a long front rod (aluminum at that time) with V-bars....but that is as extensive as I've ever been with stabilization. For a while I shot a Stokerized Stasis on a Prime Rival to counter the top heavy nature of that bow. Also shot a few B-Stingers that were fine. I currently shoot a Trinity archery and Shadow 8" stab that I use on my hunting bows and both balance well while holding a good float. If you really see that much difference, I applaud your finding the best option for your setup.

 

It's probably simply that I'm more obsessed with testing them and reaching the most objective conclusions I can on which perform the best. Everyone likes to say what they shoot is the best - often to justify their purchase (happens with bows, rests, releases, stabs, arrows, broadheads etc.). There are subjective aspects to many of these things but also measurable aspects. For something as complex as a bow there are way more subjective elements to consider. For something like a broadhead there are more objective measurements and test results that can get you closer to the "best" which is why I find John Lusk's broadhead testing to be so interesting and useful. It's not perfect but really does provide meaningful and objective diffs between heads. As pointed out above, a stab is not overly complicated and thus it's easy to measure some objective elements and compare. Yes, the aesthetics are purely subjective but beyond that much of it is actually quite objective. Now, whether the average person (myself included) could actually tell much of any diff between a number of these options is questionable but for me, just knowing that the objective testing provides a definitive conclusion on which was designed the best is enough for me be convinced to put my money behind it. The fact that it's a small USA made business is a bonus as it's always fun to support those types of operations when you can.

 

great review, I almost got some of those about a month ago but went with conquest.
they make a micro .450 that is smaller than both, lighter and has some dampening in them also, they are pretty slick.
I tried to due some research on Cutter back when I was looking and there wasn't much out there on them.

 

Predator, i don't agree with everything you say on here but i enjoy your input. Especially when you test and evaluate for yourself and not just take the marketing BS. i have wasted thousands on testing things and reselling weather it be hunting gear or gun stuff. The fact is when you test it, you have the first hand experience to make a conscience decision about one item over the other. not all will be the same as everyone else's but you will have learned in the process. Keep doing what your doing.

 

Thanks. I rarely ever just buy into marketing BS so I'm with you. Problem is this testing and reselling at a discount gets costly. Sometimes I wonder if I should just buy into the marketing BS and revel in ignorant bliss thinking I must have the best because so-and-so shoots it etc. LOL!

 

How many old pics do we have to see of Sonny.

 

And...that's not all that impressive at 40 yards.

We need pics of the 60 yard group or it didn't happen. Lol

 

I went down the stabilizer route for many years. As my shooting style formed over time I realized I didn't care about my pin moving and the quest to slow it down was what was holding back my shooting. I ditched the heavy stabilizer and just want something that cuts vibe a bit.

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I went down the stabilizer route for many years. As my shooting style formed over time I realized I didn't care about my pin moving and the quest to slow it down was what was holding back my shooting. I ditched the heavy stabilizer and just want something that cuts vibe a bit.

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm interested in how slowing down pin movement was holding back your shooting. It seems an odd conclusion to reach but you didn't expand on why that was the case so I'm now intrigued.

 

Thanks for the informative review! I appreciate the fact that I can learn from what others have experienced. I think the stabilizer is worth checking out IMO and whether I buy one or not at least I learned something.

 

Glad you found it helpful and thanks for the positive feedback.

The brand is also kind of cool when you think about it. The logo is an antelope buck and of course the name "Cutter" has a dual meaning - cutters on the buck and the design "cuts" the wind. Just a small business with products designed by guys with a passion for this sport and a desire to produce the best product to fit their needs and those of many others.

 

Strangely enough, I opted for the B Stinger Micro Hex for my new EVO EVL. It's great. I may do a bit better with long range shots with a side bar added, but haven't decided yet. I'm still very consistent with long range provided I follow thru my shots. Just thought the side bar would make it easier maybe ? Doubt it, but thought it. lol

 

That's a good stab. For many years I just shot with a front bar on hunting rigs. When I finally got around to trying a side bar I was amazed how much more balanced the bow felt and how I was able to settle the pin better. A back bar can also help with up/down misses. Might be worth messing with at some point. But I agree with your observation on follow through (or I'll say form overall) which is clearly the most important aspect of down range accuracy. I don't care what kind of stabs I have on my bow - if I'm not executing the shot properly with good back tension and follow through the results aren't going to be good.

 

All of my stabilizers are from BeeStinger. For hunting, I own both their MicroHex and Hunter Series. I have nothing negative to say about them and the price point is solid. They both perform their intended job which is to decrease shot vibration and bow movement. Now does one set perform better than the other in regards to vibration, yes. Vice versa is seen form movement as well. All in all, their products are solid.

 

I have a 5 inch Octane to knock down any vibration but nothing for stabilizing as I am pretty steady.
I haave shot with and with out anything on my bow and have not noticed a difference at where the arrow hit.

 

The CBE Torx Hunter setup has been a great one for me. I have that system on three different bows and have zero complaints. I never thought I'd like a rear bar on my hunting setup but they really are a great addition in my opinion. I do have a question though, how do you guys run long rear bars on your setup? I found either tree stands or bulky hunting bibs were always making contact with my rear stabilizer if it's longer than six inches. Curious how you guys adapt to that.

 

I purchased a 10” spider hunting stabilizer from s&s archery last year and it’s amazing on my mach 1.