in for a answer here also.i tried a fang 3 and was hitting left also.

 

Seems like it would wear a d loop out quick with it under that much tension and being twisted up upon release like that

 

Just about all t handles do that, I have the vapor and it actually decrease my loop wear a heap. And yes the impact to the left is normal, just tune it out.

 

Well, no "t" handle expert here, but from any of the instruction I have received on shooting a "t" handle, you don't want to lay your hand against your cheek/face. You draw and settle into your anchor keeping your hand and the release at approximately a 35 - 45 degree angle. By laying your hand against the face you are definitely applying torque to the d-loop so either rotate your hand to 45 degrees or try making your d-loop slightly longer.

 

This is the correct answer. Turning your hand completely flat against your face engages the incorrect muscles for proper rotation and follow through.

 

How hand should be. Knuckles of hand should not go farther back than the corner of the jaw. A proper length d-loop doesn't create enough torque to diminish accuracy in any manner. I never worried about my thumb release because of the adjustable head (see straight). With my hinge I had slight twist of the d-loop. Later, to make me feel better I later tied the d-loop knots opposite to further remove twist. Again, accuracy remained great regardless of how the d-loop was tied.

 

if your arrows are going to one side, it's not due to the loop being torqued. If you're a RH shooter and the getting left impact, it's likely due to your draw hand pulling to one side, likely against the face... or simply just the release is different, meaning you'll have to learn how to pull it straight.

Something else to consider, if you pull hard into the wall, it will be more critical of not being in alignment behind the arrow.

 

I have shot a hand held release for over 25 years, I shoot considerably more accurate with this style release. I roll my wrist so that my hand is comfortable. Yes you may need to re-paper tune or re-sight your bow, and if you shoot a quality loop material, it will last just as long as any other style of release you use.

 

The difference in impact is 99.99% likely because of your anchor point changing from your former release, especially if you are trying to shoot them side by side. I've shot handheld releases for many years now, both with swivel and non swivel heads. Never noticed a difference in accuracy but I am shooting my Exxus Core's more consistently than anything. As long as you have your draw length set and a d-loop that isn't too short, you'll be fine.

 

I just switched to a vapor also, had to move my sight left also but I'm guessing it's due to the different anchor. As long as you have the knots on your d-loop on the correct sides of the string you can do pretty much whatever you need to do to be comfortable and consistent. Had my coach take some pics when I switched so I could see my anchor. Does not seem like much twist at all

 

Your d-loop knots are backwards, for a right handed shooter.



Reverse your d-loop knots, and you should see the difference. YOUR top knot of the d-loop, the cord runs off the RIGHT side/edge of the bowstring. When you rotate your WRIST so the back of your hand is vertical, this is a counter-clockwise twist on the d-loop. So, you want the TOP of the d-loop, the cord to come off the LEFT side/edge of the bowstring.

 

It doesn't matter what angle you hold your hand and release as long as you do it the same every time.

You should tune and sight in the bow every time you change hand angle. It won't take any big adjustments unless you go from an angle similar to an Olympic recurve shooter to imitating Jeff Hopkins.

Just find an angle that you can repeat and is comfortable to you.

 

there is no correct or incorrect hand position so long as you pull through the shot directly behind the arrow...BT, wrist manipulation, point the index finger--doesn't matter.

 

Yup. Basic anatomy. Levator Scapulae. Rhomboid. Upper Trapezius. Middle Trapezius. Latissimus Dorsi. Sooo many folks say it's all rhomboid. Then, others say it's all the trapezius (mid and upper). So, how about the Latissimum Dorsi? So, how about transverse extension? Sorry folks. You CAN use the latissimus dorsi, for "back tension", when you execute transverse extension, regardless of the rotation angle of the release hand. The rotation angle of the release hand is strictly working your ulna and radius bones in your forearm. Transverse extension = controlled by the following muscle groups: latissimus dorsi, infraspinatus, and teres minor. BUT, the rhomboids also get involved, and the trapezius, as well. Redundant and over-lapping systems. So, to say that the back of your hand, plastered vertical against your cheek, locks out Back Tension is an incorrect statement. Sure, Larry Wise teaches the palm horizontal technique. The other rotation positions (45 degrees or vertical back of hand) ALSO work with back tension. Depending on what muscles you activate, your follow through reaction can be a VERTICAL arc for the Right Handed Release elbow...or, even with a VERTICAL back of hand position, via TRANSVERSE EXTENSION, your VERTICAL Right Handed Release Elbow can have a horizontal swinging motion follow through reaction.

 

You have different anchor points between your wrist strap and a hand held. With your wrist strap, your hand was anchored closer to your neck and the string closer accordingly. When you use your hand held release, the release and string are moved over away from the neck more because your fingers are in there as an anchor point. This controls point of impact. Dig your hand into your face for an experiment and see where the arrow lands. Hold the hand very lightly against the face and see where it lands. Changes left to right. So what you need to do, is adjust the sights accordingly for the new anchor point.

 

If concerned about the D-loop torque take a look at its thread.

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3079546&highlight=Pro+loop

 

https://youtu.be/JLAf9mSDHDc

 

Tie dloop like stated above shouldnt be an issue. If you are still hitting to the left, you might be having facial contact problems

 

You could have been pulling the string tighter to your face with the wrist strap and the T-handle won't let you hold it in the same place at anchor. If that is the case, you could also be anchoring too high. Raise your peep so that you have your hand below your jawbone. Many folks like to put the jaw bone between the first and second knuckle on the release hand. Torque on the D-loop is a non-issue.