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Day Six Arrow/ Broadhead Thought

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#1 ·
I recently started watching videos with Remi Warren because I saw him shooting a mouth tab. Pretty fascinating! I went down a rabbit hole to figure out his setup with a mouth tab. Fast forward 24 hours, I ran across Remi Warren's podcast and then a few episodes with Bryan Broderick w/ Day Six discussing arrows and broadheads. Broderick's approach to arrow weight, setup, and broadheads seems pretty reasonable IMO.

Arrow weight:
I'm generalizing, but his goal is to put 2 holes in a deer. Shoot an arrow that gets the most out of your bow. He aims for 8x your draw weight. My setup, for example, 29.5 DL w/ 70lb DW - his recommendation would be a 560ish gn setup. 8x your draw weight. Obviously, there are some exceptions. 26DL vs 31DL. Broderick was very big on bar shaft tuning. Arrow flight should be the priority. He also commented that FOC may be overstated. He did throw a little shade on the Ranch Fairy. He also made it clear that he is building a hunting arrow, not a TAC arrow.

Broadhead:
Shoot fixed. I'm on board with that. Shoot a double bevel over a single bevel. The example he used on one of the podcasts was a nail vs. a screw. Made sense to me but surprised me a bit.



I shot the ranch fairy setup for a while with very little to complain about. I wasn't keen on the trajectory. I hunt in the deep south. My shots are very rarely beyond 20 yards. I could understand the western hunter's desire for a flatter trajectory. I MAY make some adjustments to my setup this year.

I would be interested in other AT members' experiences/reviews with/of Day Six products.

I suspect that I have kicked over an ant hill, but I'm going to send it!
 
#7 ·
Last season I killed two Whitetail with Day Six Evo X 125 grain with 3/4” bleeders heads. I think they’re fantastic heads, I’m a big fan of the S35V. They come very sharp and hold an edge great. Both of my harvests resulted in <100 yard tracks.

Here’s an exit wound from one of these heads. This doe was quartering away pretty heavily, my arrow went in and out, traveling through almost her entire body lengthwise. These heads are wicked.
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#10 ·
I have shot the HD 350 arrows for about 5 years. They are extremely tough arrows and fly great. 28.5" draw length and with 10 grain heads my full arrow is at 470 grains. I think it's a nice hunting weight arrow.
So far Ive killed 4 deer and 6 Elk with these arrows. I only have great things to say about them.
 
#2 ·
I think the nail versus screw argument isn't as applicable as many would believe. An axe versus a maul is a better comparison. The depth of cut with an axe is greater, but the maul has a wider cheek to split along the grain.

For the most part, there are a lot of guys who will agree. Snyder recently said about 6GPP is his recommendation, so the exact weight is very subjective.

Day six makes really heavy shafts. I use FOC as a tool for arrow flight with fixed blades, but I don't think FOC means much for impact on standard archery shots. In my opinion, you'd have to be breaking the arrow before you see a difference in FOC for penetration depth. On paper there is a benefit, but you'll have to hit a much harder target than most deer bones. I haven't had an issue with durability with carbon outside of shooting groups, so I'm not convinced it's necessary to make the shaft itself that heavy.
 
#4 ·
Everyone has an angle......but as the old adage states, "The proof is in the pudding". What has he and those who follow his advice achieved? Single vs double bevel will continue to be a debate, but a good one as folks shooting good fixed heads are going to get solid penetration. Bare shaft tuning has been around a while and stood the test of time......most who have engaged it agree with the worthiness. I don't shoot Day Six anything and kill game every fall with good penetration at 29.25/60....but I've never been on a podcast so who cares??? ;)
 
#9 ·
Everyone has an angle......but as the old adage states, "The proof is in the pudding". What has he and those who follow his advice achieved? Single vs double bevel will continue to be a debate, but a good one as folks shooting good fixed heads are going to get solid penetration. Bare shaft tuning has been around a while and stood the test of time......most who have engaged it agree with the worthiness. I don't shoot Day Six anything and kill game every fall with good penetration at 29.25/60....but I've never been on a podcast so who cares??? ;)
What sort of resume would you prefer?
 
#8 ·
I’ve shot both their arrows and broadheads. As far as the arrows go, they shot excellent but I found them heavier than I prefer. They have since came out with a lighter shaft option that I would probably like better.
I also shot both a deer and an elk with their 100 grain Evo broadheads. They shot/flew excellent with insane penetration ( full pass through on an elk and the arrow kept going another 20 yards). I did find the blood trails on the light side but that is a very subjective thing.
 
#14 ·
I’ve shot the arrows for several years as my elk setup. I’ve shot 2 elk worth no issues. I started shooting the broadheads 4 years ago. The first year i smashed a sapling. The second year i got a muzzleloader tag. Last year i didnt get a shot. This year i decided to switch broadheads due to several podcasts and i got horrible penetration. The elk dropped and turned as i shot and i’m pretty sure it was in his shoulder blade. I tracked for 500 yards and never found him. I feel like i would have gotten much better penetration with a day six head, enough to kill the elk, who knows, but couldnt hurt.
 
#15 ·
Maybe......maybe not........but even if you want to shoot a single bevel or double bevel 2 blade head because you feel like the extra penetrate is better it doesn't have to cost $100 to get the benefits of that style head.

A Magnus can do the same thing or other similar heads for 29 - 50 bucks IMHO. Just like their arrows I think they go after people who feel like if it costs more it has to be better. Or....think.....I have the money.....I'm going to the top of the price range because I can.

I have proven for me that I don't need that extra benefits they may or may not add to be successful. Do You remember a guy name Chuck something or other? He killed every animal alive for the first Super Slam with aluminum arrows..........you know the ones many people try to say you could bend just pulling them out of a target bail.........lol. IMHO that says it all.
 
#16 ·
I have shot elk with magnus, good heads, but the quality is not quite the same. The reason i spend the extra money is not for when i make the perfect shot or when everything goes right, but when something goes wrong. Most companies have levels of quality and most people go in the middle because they feel that’s the best bargain, best mix of quality vs price. No one is saying you have to shoot expensive stuff, but if you haven’t tried it and seen the increase in quality you shouldn’t say people are just buying it because they have tons of money.
Ive shot lesser quality and had poor success on elk. Thats why i use higher quality arrows and broadheads now.

as far as aluminum goes, i shot the fmjs for several years and after a year 4/12 would not spin true, so aluminum is ok but you go through way more arrows than i do now for sure.

looks like you shoot a mathews. You know mission makes a cheaper, good quality bow that will shoot just as good at 20-30yds and it much cheaper, why not shoot it?
 
#17 ·
Shoot the HD's on my setups. 250 spine on my 80lbs RX7 Ultra and 275 spine on my Lift 33. Last year hunted/culled 52 animals and only two broken arrows. Also the only arrow I accidentally shot into a brick wall at 20y with my 80lbs RX7 and the arrow survived.Still hunting with that arrow.

Also hunt with their broadheads and onw BH has been through 4 animals and ready to go again. Very easy to tune.Only negative is the sharp tip often breaks off but when resharpening I just male it a small tanto shape and it works. Leaves good blood trials due to the bleeder blades in front cutting first before the main blade opens up the wound.